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Sacre Bleu

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    Why does the uk courts still have the oath of holding the bible and saying "I will tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth" or something like that. The whole court system follows christian believes and the bible.

    Do you not have the option to swear a different oath if you wish ?  Can't imagine our "christian" oath cutting much ice with muslims etc.

     

     

    In the UK there are the options to:

    • take a religious "oath" according to belief such as "I swear by (diety/religious belief) that the evidence I shall give shall be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth."
    • or make a non-religious "affirmation" such as "I do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm that the evidence I shall give shall be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth."
  2. If I am right, the court follows the bible and that's where the laws comes from. Like, for example, who said it's a crime to murder? it's been made a crime as that is what is in the bible. When they used to hang criminals then that would have been the high court following "an eye for an eye" in the bible.

     

    Most societies throughout history have not tolerated murder. It's a basic tenant of living communally. Religion doesn't have exclusivity on that.

  3. I think it's a shame when discussion about faith and religion doesn't get beyond whether or not God exists (not that this is the case here).

     

    What I find most interesting is why religion is so pervasive. (Almost) every culture throughout history has had some kind of faith system.

     

    The post-Enlightenment western expectation that religion would die out in the face of scientific advances hasn't happened apart from a decline in western Europe and a few other places.

     

    There are many theories that a societal framework such as religion was so evolutionarily advantageous that humans have evolved to have a predisposition for religious belief. Religion provides a shared narrative and core values that groups of people united under. Science doesn't provide the same function.

  4. Biggest problem i see with the Christian religion is the number of different denominations all preaching from the same bible but I assume interpreting it in different ways .

     

    They cannot all be right.

     

    If everyone was going to the same church then possibly christianity might survive.

     

    What other religion other than the christian is like Heinz with 57 varieties. To many of us very confusing  :ponders:

     

    The 'adaptability' of Christianity is one of the reasons it could spread and be interpreted/adopted by so many cultures. Compared to some other religion's texts, the bible is fairly light on detail about 'how' to worship, and it can be done individually or collectively.

  5. "In the not too distant past almost everybody got married in church. Now almost nobody getmarried in church. I think that saya lot." - I'd be interested to know what evidence you're basing this assertion on. I've been to 3 weddings in Shetland this year and all have been in churches.

     

    "I would suggest that it has nothing to do with any form of history." - the law you refer to dates back to 1872, and it is currently being reformed, ergo it has historical context.

     

    "Religion is no more than a control mechanism" - it has indeed been used as a control mechanism, but that is only one aspect of the subject and sweeping assertions like that aren't productive.

     

    "I would be interested to see any proof you have that shows the existence of a god. Any god will do." - I'm an atheist.

     

  6. "Religion is no longer as powerful as it used to be. It no longer has as many believers, it no longer has anything like the number of people going to church on a Sunday" - this is a sweeping statement. Are you just referring to denominational Christianity in the UK?

     

    "it no longer marries one percent of what it used to" - what do you mean by that?

     

    "Why are non-religious schools banned from Scotland?" - it is an odd and unpopular policy and is largely for historical reasons. Currently, parents are entitled to withdraw children from religious observance, and it is likely that pupils will gain the right to withdraw from religious observance without parental consent when the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child is incorporated into Scottish law. I expect whole schools will be able to opt-out soon afterwards.

     

    "Who has the right to inflict their religion and their beliefs on us without permission, while forcing their faith upon us without asking?" - governments, usually.

  7. "All parts of the world seem to have gone the same way"

     

    [most] predictions show a decrease world's population affiliating as atheist, agnostic or non-religious 

     

    From the PEW Reseach Centre (generally considered to be non-partisan) http://www.pewforum.org/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/#projected-growth-map

     
    Over the next four decades, Christians will remain the largest religious group, but Islam will grow faster than any other major religion. If current trends continue, by 2050 …

    • The number of Muslims will nearly equal the number of Christians around the world.
    • Atheists, agnostics and other people who do not affiliate with any religion – though increasing in countries such as the United States and France [and the UK] – will make up a declining share of the world’s total population.
    • The global Buddhist population will be about the same size it was in 2010, while the Hindu and Jewish populations will be larger than they are today.
    • In Europe, Muslims will make up 10% of the overall population.
    • India will retain a Hindu majority but also will have the largest Muslim population of any country in the world, surpassing Indonesia.
    • In the United States, Christians will decline from more than three-quarters of the population in 2010 to two-thirds in 2050, and Judaism will no longer be the largest non-Christian religion. Muslims will be more numerous in the U.S. than people who identify as Jewish on the basis of religion.
    • Four out of every 10 Christians in the world will live in sub-Saharan Africa.
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