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Trumps plan officially was to accept the transition under protest accepting the result but maintaining that his opponent likely cheated hence him not "conceding" and contesting the election after he leaves office. This annoys conservatives in his party but why should anyone care what the Conservative Republicans think? Conservatives as we know them in all western countries are complete doormats and fail to accomplish anything as far as their agenda goes besides being prostitutes for their donors. I don’t like the postmodernist woke left but they get results and wacky things they say are completely normalized and echoed in some of the highest levels of authority. Try this one for size I cant believe they forgot to say it was specifically the fault of white and or heterosexual men but the alternative to the type of politics the republicans peddle is pushed by those who are more committed and determined. Conservatism is absolutely useless they have lost their tradition, the nuclear family and electoral self determination by allowing themselves to become a minority and actively work with their Opposition on these things. Libertarianisim is just as meek so once the Woke left establishes a 1 party state in almost all western countries it will not be conservatives that present a real threat to their hegemony and that is why they always talk about the spooky nebulous “far right” instead of conservatives because conservatives are not even door mats at this point they are toilet paper anything else is an upgrade for "the right" at this point.

Instead of arguing back or trying to win over the opponent there is a greater tendency to just go our own separate ways rather than agree to disagree so we get more echochambers especially among partisan lines. Not even singling out any particular group because you can find examples on all sides of the aisle in most cases just seems like people are getting more thin skinned across all society and those who aren't always seem to frighten everyone else nowadays.

Oh well The United States of America had a good run I think Trump and the mob are symptoms rather than the cause internal decay was there long before he entered politics. There were plenty of far left riots and non stop complaining about trump over the last 5 years so its only fair the other team gets to complain about him leaving and i think crashing a party in the government building is a better choice than looting and burning down a grocery store in a poor neighborhood to fight racism. They are being bigger babies than the Belorussians who threw a temper tantrum after Alexander Lukashenkos perfectly legit win!

The conversation has been dominated by moaning about me and a few have said something to the effect of I am discouraging others from speaking their mind because I come across so disagreeable or contrarian. Lets say for either devil's advocate or for the sake of argument this is 100% correct! So you think the fear of me disagreeing or arguing with you is enough to prevent participation in the conversation. You do not respond in kind or even try to change my mind, Why is this so? You would rather I simply remove myself or be removed so that I instead go elsewhere and argue with more likeminded people instead As i said before: You would be becoming more insular with less viewpoints represented and such a reaction might discourage others who agree with maybe one or two things i said from admitting it and any group I joined would likewise be devoid of opinions like your own. This is how echochambers naturally form and if you look at our institutions and groups all over western civilization you will see more ideological homogeneity and stark clashes when any dissenting view is seen. Brexit is a good example of something that shows how polarized the United Kingdom has become to a point where it is framed as a battle between good and evil but Left/Right polarization is growing everywhere else too. Balkanization and Separatism are more popular than ever because compromise is no longer an option we don’t discuss the good and bad points together we separate the points that match our own biases because the other side is clearly wrong and everyone in the echochamber will back me up on this. We have crap politicians but I genuinely think in real life people are less inclined to risk running for political office because of the blowback and destruction of reputation they might receive by taking a stance that they think is important but views are divided. Personal cost would just be too great and one would likely be harassed by those who passionately disagree but will not debate or engage.

My views may or may not be set in stone but you have not presented an alternative viewpoint for comparison, If you had a persuasive argument i may be inclined to reconsider my views but i would still be inclined to scrutinize to see if it is correct. Effects of Brexit supposedly include UK diminishing as a "financial power" this is taken for granted to be a bad thing but is that so? Iceland had a bank collapse and they have a higher standard of living and income than the majority of the UK or most of the world for that matter. Decline of the pound only shows that ditching the gold standard was a mistake and collapse bad in the short term potentially being good in the long term thing as the policies of the central bank and the larger banks lead to the enrichment of earlier investors and impoverishing of those who either have less or started later hence Ponzi. Other policies besides poverty caused by this such as alimony and gold diggers exploiting a system designed to separate shared property and avoid the other partner becoming destitute have prevented risk averse from forming families to a point where deaths outnumbered births even BEFORE the "pandemic" lack of births is cited as a reason we supposedly need the EU to replenish the workforce though we have less internal migration for reason mentioned above. you may see it as nonsense and i hear disapproval loud and clear but if you don't like what i said i challenge you prove me wrong and should you succeed and change my mind that would be fine with me. before i finish i have a question that i think is of much greater importance, In the west are we as a society less willing or capable to engage with or challenge ideas that we don't like than ever before? it seems that more than ever the choice of ideas has become more narrow and people are even pushing for laws to protect themselves from alternative views at this point.

phoenix is a metaphor for allowing a "death" of the rotten system and thus rebirth, The end of the roman empire and collapse of its institutions was not the end of Italy its people or any of its physical land or occupied territories nor was the end of the Soviet empire the extinction of eastern Europeans within its occupied territories. i don't mean to say rebuild the British empire when i say it is desirable to collapse the ponzi scheme and rebuild like other places the British east India company was nationalized because the management style of the private British corporate overlords of India disgusted the British public to the point where the government was compelled to. British empire provided a frontier where those looking to make a living could go and build something elewhere or make their fourtunes outside the UK funny how going after corporate oligarchs has become such an unpopular idea with today's neoliberal left so long as those corporations are "woke" and increase GDP albeit lowering wages in the process. I don't believe in trickle down economics and prefer to address the obstacles to things being built from the ground up instead of praying to o holy job creators form afar. real estate market is more manipulated than UK coal was back at its peak if coal prices weren't heavily subsidized and it was sold at cost the society would adjust to either using new fuels or becoming more cost effective in extraction instead the rest of the taxpayers had to pump money into this instead of spending it on infrastructure or anything else relay other businesses not shouldering the burden of keeping the coal price down without affecting wages. instead just let it balloon until it was popped similar to the over inflation of land prices overseas nonresident buyers, landlords renting buy to lets to those on the dole and a left eager to bring in new tenants from the third world because (#refugeeswelcome) to deplete housing stock enrich oligarchs all at taxpayer expense and all this regardless of if they undercut existing workers or not wise investment Tony Blair made by warmongering and displacing people it pays lots of dividends to the neoliberal establishment You are Very confident that you have better ideas yet very shy in showing them or exposing them to scrutiny, Below is what it looks like you said.

For a phoenix to be reborn it must do "something" first . . . Do you agree or not? Do you have a counterargument to my thesis that collapsing the ponzi scheme by any means necessary is desirable despite any collateral damage?

So the best part of being in the EU is not having to live in the UK? You know you can still contact an embassy of the country you want to move to for information, look on websites advertising jobs overseas and apply for a Visa if you want to live and work there as per the rules of each nation. You can still retire there as some jurisdictions allow residency for pensioners and younger people can become naturalized citizens as per the rules of each nation. If you being there is viewed as having a negative effect on for example: existing jobseekers within that territory and they want to restrict who comes in that’s fine too. Most of these are directly tied to the British governments domestic policy and would happen regardless of EU Membership, We had workers rights before 1993 (When European coal and steel community became the EU) Most of the UK has been in a state of decline before the EU vote anyway Britain is few wealthy settlements in a pool of poor postindustrial towns and cities, normally as these areas emptied out when working age people moved onto greener pastures house prices would collapse and locals would buy and entrepreneurs would come to where its cheap and try new things. instead we have tonnes of overseas buyers hoovering up properties and blowing prices up to absurd proportions in some parts of Britain more than others and that is in an article from 2013 "85% of homes in the capital's centre sold to overseas buyers as weak pound sees foreign interest soar" June 2013 must be BLOODY BREXIT in 2013 This has a knock on effect for the whole UK for the remainder of the country either by those vulture investors buying houses in other parts of the country renting them out at double or triple the mortgage and siphoning that money out of the UK economy Or Displacing people and causing them to move to more affordable places in the UK live and work thus raising costs after they get there If the job pays less than the rent you go for where you can have something left over after rent is paid. Rentals have not been hovered up in Scotland as quickly because you must register as a landlord therefore discouraging vulture investors this is in my opinion a good thing. But those wanting a better price are more likely to avoid negotiating with locals or recent arrivals alike because they think a higher payout from a richer buyer is imminent leading to more houses being left vacant https://www.shetnews.co.uk/2019/06/18/high-proportion-of-long-term-empty-homes/- But that still leaves retirement properties and internal and external migration of workers who will displace the younger generation from some communities where property interest has ballooned. It is the policy of the UK gov to keep the Ponzi scheme going as long as possible and this is great news for earlier investors to the Ponzi scheme but a disaster for those who want to live inside the houses or obtain a house near work/family without exporting a chunk of their salary afar and paying somebody else’s mortgage too. A local landlord or local authority would be a substantial upgrade since the money stays in the local area at least. To tackle this the UK are adding a measly pissant 3% charge on overseas buyers instead of banning them like New Zealand did https://www.ft.com/content/6fa6fe7a-5d45-11ea-8033-fa40a0d65a98 I see only one way out of this cancerous situation Where is this crash you scaremongers keep foretelling because we need it and if we are an inward looking place now GOOD! maybe we can start focusing on domestic policy instead of foreign policy for a change!

Was going for sarcastic/satirical rather than sanctimonious Poe's law got me I suppose. Either way it came as a surprise they haven't delayed leaving the EU for the ?th consecutive time so within the constraints of the UK contract with the EU the UK is theoretically able to go its own way within the constraints of the UK withdrawal agreement with the EU. Now behold a year wherein the uselessness and conflicting interests of the UK gov will be on full display and the nations sanity and livelihoods will continue to be destroyed to protect us from a disease with a >99% survival rate. https://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/18980991.lockdown-protester-debbie-hicks-stroud-arrested-allegedly-filming-hospital/ hospitals are full to capacity but don't film any evidence to the contrary as a Debbie Hicks of Gloucestershire found out the hard way, hospitals are full to the brim and although deaths overall are below average don't film the empty hospitals, THAT'S ILLEGAL! EU or Brexit is the least of anyone's worries regardless of what faction they side with!

There is now a controversy over seed potatoes, either they will have a warehouse full of unsold crop or it will be shipped elsewhere or sold the same as last year. What happens if we cant send this specific sub-variety of potatoes to Ireland and the EU?

Yet more proof that grammar is null and void, especially when it is enclosed as an array of objects. Hello Mr. Yousaf! There is a misogynist [grammar] nazi mansplaining to me you need to get the fuzz to right now to check his thinking right away!

Foreigners? Do stop using the term "foreigners" use the [Politically] correct term: https://www.snp.org/groups/new-scots/ Or else I will have to call the hate speech hotline, I will have you know I am also a lesbian for tax purposes so it may also carry a penalty for misogyny among other things once Humza Yousaf is finally elected as our first lady! With that water under the bridge it looks like SNP is aiming for no deal, Should have done this earlier and tried to get MPs from other parts of the U.K. to back it. https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1377850/brexit-news-nicola-sturgeon-snp-trade-deal-vote-scottish-independence-boris-johnson Forming coalitions used to be a way for disparate groups of people to band together for common cause and share goals seems lost on today’s "winner takes all" electoral system.

Why couldn't we just partition Scotland into 2 kingdoms still bound by the act of union to wind up both unionists and secessionists and break up the remainder of the UK up into Remainia and Leavenstein?

For the record i see investing in the deindustrialized areas as akin to refueling the Hindenburg Relevant video although the nationalities of those mentioned are not. I know that the rules on council housing and housing associations are written by "property developers" who want to stack the deck against them but my advice would be to campaign for the investment they flush down the toilet in these crap towns the Con party milks for votes and make-work contracts for their donors to instead be used to build houses where people are looking for employees yet have chronically full housing waiting list should get that funding instead. here is the kicker no mainstream political movement in the UK is suggesting anything that even resembles this. Most of the "racial" incidents post Brexit are directed at those "Job stealing" poles who are snow white. Why would they be angry at somebody who is taking all their jobs, Aren't they happy on the dole? In exactly the same vein lots of people dismiss rural areas as inbred and conservative areas as racist but when you go there it takes some effort of find examples of this unless you find a place with an unusually high percentage of those people since on average most people of any place avoid being either of those things if they can help it. "racial" anger seems to be directed at Pakistani heritage but is virtually absent with identical looking Indians(unless mistook for the former) they are from the commonwealth so its moot to the EU issue. Why on earth are those British in a civic sense tolerated whilst those in enclaves practicing a different culture so reviled? there is no difference between them is there?, or is there?

You miss the point! Why do the conservatives win elections? When you have a bunch of farmers who are worried their produce is going down in price and a bunch of peasants who think food is too expensive you can either meet in the middle or have an arrangement with clear cut winners and losers. You don't win elections by preaching to the choir, for example Scotland largely voted against leave yet voted to stay part of the UK so their views only matter proportionately to what proportion of the UK they are. What does this tell us about Scotland? Scotland has lowest fertility rate in UK but population hits new high of 5.44 million so what about the parts of the UK that do procreate? What about the existing citizenry of the UK that compete with the imported serfs?