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mikeyboy

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    UK had a seat at the top table shaping and writing those regulations.

    As always your post is short on facts.

    Yeah! we were are the table but our opinions carried about as much weight as a fart in a force 10 gale.

     

    Beat me to it Davie, complete stoness!

    More and more this place is just an echo chamber for certain people.

    Too much uninformed opinion on this forum dressed up as facts.

    Don't tell me they are alternative facts.

    As they say I am out.

  2. I think you have missed the point or are you just moving the goal posts?

     

    "I do object to May pampering to the EU and promising that we'll adopt a load of existing EU legislation"

     

    The point I am making is that this EU legislation is already UK law. The UK had a hand in drafting and voting for the directives. Then the UK parliament debated, amended and then voted on the UK legislation. 

  3. Barroso the then outgoing president of European Council did say that it would be difficult if not impossible for Scotland to join the EU if another member didn't approve. But what country would that be? Spain is often cited but the Spanish government has never to my knowledge said this. Would the UK have objected?

  4. "Civil servants do the background work regarding goods/services, taxations and tariffs, safety thresholds for products, etc.  Embassy staff have traditionally promoted British firms/goods but it's been the individual firms themselves who have bid for the majority of contracts, got their goods in shops abroad, etc.  The problem we're faced with is that those previously working at the DTI got re-deployed to Brussels.  The other problem has been the amount of manufacturers who have lobbied the EU for changes in legislation/EU Directives that made things more favourable for them."

     

    Not sure where you are going with this? I don't think anybody has suggested anything else than that individual firms do the actual trading. What the governments do is decide tariffs and standards. Not background work but essential. So you realise that we don't have thousands of trade experts to negotiate all these wonderful trade deals with countries that we already trade with through the EU. I am still at a loss to understand how anybody thinks a medium sized country is somehow going to strike a better deal than a large trading block. Sorry I don't understand your last sentence in the context of Brexit.

     

    "I do object to May pampering to the EU and promising that we'll adopt a load of existing EU legislation, like on the Environment, into our laws before even negotiating on trade; it's none of their business!  You don't see Japan/Australia doing that when they negotiate a trading deal.  You don't see Japan/Australia agreeing as to what standard goods should be manufactured to that aren't going to be sold outside of each of those countries.  May should have told the EU where to go jump and let us decide later which bits of legislation re the Environment, for example, to keep, with due process through Parliament."

     

    Applicable EU legislation has already been adopted into UK law since 1972. This was confirmed by the European union withdrawal act. What is happening now is a tidying up of British law through hundreds of SI which will come into effect if we leave the EU. All passed through parliament with due process.

     

    "There's another post doing the rounds on Facebook, one that reckons we can trade with the EU for up to 10 years under WTO rules should we leave the EU without a deal ... so if that's true (and heck, who knows, anyone?) then why the hell are we attempting to set up trade deals now?  It does work both ways, and whilst the EU might collectively together be our largest individual trading partner (44%), that still leaves 66% elsewhere.


    Had we had any backbone and said that we were leaving without a deal and prepared for that from Day 1, I don't think the EU would be being as bullish as they are now."

     

    What trade through WTO rules and give up our sovereignty to an unelected undemocratic cabal!

    Although we are members of the WTO we still need to negotiate with them to trade and I believe any individual member can object and hold things up. 

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