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You may note that I stated " I do hope it succeeds". I sincerely hope it does meet it's running costs and generate enough profit to complete its required maintenance as time goes on so that everybody can enjoy going to see a movie and perhaps some live music. Although I am convinced this wont be the case. I said you must be a new labour supporting swivel eyed loon?, It was a question asking if you were one. Not an insult I said you seem equally as scatter brained as our local and national political representative's. I did not say you were, I am sorry if you consider this an insult. I consider it an observation. Fair enough, don't post your long post. I will assume that you have no coherent or valid response to my previous post.

Thank you Joannie , so are you saying they have paid back there loan in full and had a profit of £750,000 last year ? If so how many other similar shetland magazines can the market handle?

Very good Shetland pit, an interesting list of what is basically computer generated hobbies which can be produced in the average computer enthuasiasts bedroom, with the exception of millgaet media which does produce a nice colour magazine, but also cant pay for itself with out cash injections from community funds - http://www.shetland.gov.uk/news-advice/prsdt010708.asp So you think that bailing out this building is some how going to facillitate these media based industries to become the engine of the shetland economy, creating jobs and income on an equal footing with food and energy production?. Perhaps you should get into politics full time as you seem equally as scatter brained as the baffoons we are burdened with. And what industries do you class as in demise? It is my belief that these Islands should always make the traditional industries of fishing, sea faring, marine + land farming along with our traditional crafts (knitwear, ship building, construction etc) the main priorities with regard to safe guarding the economy. Tourism and maintaining a clean environment with the minimum of disruption is also important ( no industrial scale wind power generation) The demise they have suffered has been down to the tragically poor performance of these islands and the UK'S political representatives over the last 30 years.

After 6 months of trading I would have imagined the management of mareel and those in the council who are pro- mareel would be heartily blowing there trumpets over its profit making success ( or even it's ability to meet running costs if that was the case...... - We haven't seen that yet, only secret meetings in the council chambers where they have agreed to pump further large amount of public funds into it. I do hope it succeeds and I have been to see a film there as well so I have given it a small bit of financial support. Is there any body who would pay to see music and film they are not interested in just to help it meet it's costs? Perhaps Shetland Peat has set up a standing order to give regular monthly donations? But I am yet to go to any music events , some of the tribute bands do sound like a good night out, but I was expecting a good mix of well known real bands. Not obscure cover bands. Also shetland peat bleats on about " media production facilities" as if this is some great new business that will boost the economy of the isles. What are you thinking ? that we will have another half a dozen shetland news websites? perhaps SIBC will have a lot of competition ? a new radio station for every day of the week and every type of music. All making a healthy profit and employing large numbers of school levers You must be a new labour supporting swivel eyed loon? A fan of Ed Balls ? The deranged economist The council is struggling to maintain basic services so, and as much as I like a good night out, not a penny more of funds should be given to a cinema/ dodgy pub / music hall.

I recall it being quoted that mareel would require £400,000.00 in bar sales in order to meet its staff, maintenance, electric and insurance costs. And I think that must have meant 400,000 profit, which is of course a much bigger cash turn over. They must know if by now if profits are covering costs?

The basics of it is simply the numbers of people regularly going out and the quantity of alcohol they are consuming. In other words for the legion to live, perhaps the wheel bar, flints, noost, mareel or lounge must die?

Thats the big question, is it paying for itself without having regular sell out gigs ? Has it taken £200,000.00 over the bar in the last 6 months ?

What the Royal British legion needs to boost numbers is another War with mass call up of civillians into the armed services. Then when the war is over the surviving veterans can join and enjoy their beer at a price cheaper than the privately run public houses. If that doesn't happen it might as well drop the whole british legion bit and run as a profit making pub / dance hall. And it would need to be renamed the scottish legion if the vote goes alex salmonds way.....

I hear that Mareel has now been given the nickname of " The Grave yard!" by the young people of Lerwick. . I also heard that certain musical styles are being turned away when certain promoters have made enquiries as to getting bands lined up? Have gigs been poorly attended , with less than 50% attendance on many occasions? Watching for the next financial bailout.......... Picture hoose bit is surely still gettin bums on seats.

Some poor bloke who was nailed to a stick 2000 years ago is sitting next to God waiting to come back to earth and judge every single human who ever lived or died. It is sheer lunacy, there is no way to modernise such obvious nonsense except to drop it all and admit that it is a lot of made up drivel.

Father Dougal McGuire: I've never met a celebrity before. Father Ted Crilly: You met the Pope. Father Dougal McGuire: Did I? Father Ted Crilly: Yes, do you not remember that time we were in Rome? Father Dougal McGuire: That was the Pope? That old fella living in the art gallery? Father Ted Crilly: The Vatican, Dougal! The Vatican! Father Dougal McGuire: Still, he's not a celebrity in the true sense of the word. Father Ted Crilly: He's God's representative on Earth, Dougal! Father Dougal McGuire: You'd think he'd be taller.

http://www.rigzone.com/news/oil_gas/a/124181/Report_47_Tcf_Gas_Potential_at_Burus_Canning_Permits Another 47 trillion cubic feet of gas. Its is a change of direction AT, rather than buy bulkers of coal from Aus the will be shipping in tanker loads of LNG instead. Should certainly ease the smog problems in some of china's industrial cities as time goes on

I find it quite absurd that any same sex couples would want there partnership blessed and recognized by a religion that would see them burn in hell for eternity. And if Alistair carbuncle is reading this he must be thinking " All I did was vote for gay marriage, I didn't expect the spanish inquisition!" Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!!! P.S. He's not the messiah, he's the only lib dem in the village......people?

http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-27947278.html One less expense for the cooncil?

The gas is free the same as the wind, its the engineering and resources that is required to extract / harness and then transform into electricity that costs money. A gas powered power station can be engineered to supply constant power 24/7 at less cost than doing the same with wind. It could be done with wind if the geography of the land could support another equal number of windmills working exclusively on pumping water up to hydro resevoirs ready to kick in during the many occasions when there is to little or too much wind. You would need major excavations on every viable high point in the isles. Or people could just make do with electric when the wind blows ?

This is a waiting room. Is this what really cleaning out the funds ? Install separate coin operated electric meters for heating and light and coin operated security lockers. Incorporate the cleaning duties into the duties of the already employed street cleaners. Waiting room remains and money saved. Now pay off the chap who though up the original closure plan and save another 40 grand a year.

From the Scotsman article :- "One of the great Scottish myths is that the islands are subsidy-dependent, a drain on central resources. They have always been treated as indebted beneficiaries of largesse rather than as the economic assets that more than pay their way. Even leaving aside oil and gas, they have fish, renewable energy, a world-class environment… the islands and surrounding territorial waters have them all. And they would have done much, much better with localised control over them" And thats the thing, the SNP's independence plan is only to get Westminster of one shoulder to allow the EU Commission to sit on both! Its a total farce ! no independance at all ! Of course the bulk of politicians will never go against the EU, that would be like turkeys voting for christmas. They milk the EU Gravy train for their own ends and tell us the country cant survive without membership. But it's there own greedy interests they are really protecting and there are none worse than the lib dems on that particular issue.

http://info.moneyweek.com/urgent-bulletins/the-end-of-britain maybe all this saving will never be enough?

Colin, you are entirely correct with you statement copied below "I can't see what independence would do for Scotland other than give the "ding a lings" a chance to add to the mess we are in already. The nub of the problem seems to be EU membership and, if what I read elsewhere is correct, Scotland would have to re-apply and that would mean adopting the Euro as our currency and being forced to adopt a whole raft of other measures and controls that we are currently exempt from. Additionally, it would also mean extra taxes. Salmond & Co have already negotiated some tax raising powers and, if he didn't think he needed them, why is he asking? Where's the 'independence' in that? And Kavi is to be commended for his shetland patriotism , we have had it good thanks to getting a small slice of the oil action, but our real renewable industry of fishing has almost been destroyed thanks to corrrupt UK & EU Politicians. A hell of a lot of wealth and resources have been cleaned out from the isles and it's waters and now we are told filling the landscape with giant wind mills is our only hope for the future ? Have you been here long Johnmc ? "

Well, thats the ridiculous farce over with for another year........ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/9732226/Doha-climate-change-talks-end-with-compensation-deal-for-poor-nations-that-could-cost-billions.html Earlier the UK was among 38 industrialised countries to sign up to an extension of the Kyoto Protocol, the only binding pact on cutting green house gas emissions. The deal extends the life of the commitment past 2012, when it was due to end, until 2020. However major polluters including China, USA, Canada, Russia and Japan did not sign up to the pact.

Cheap gas - good for industry, good for the consumer, good for oap's struggling to keep warm in winter. Significantly cleaner than coal and works best in conjunction with a few windmills , although who actually gets wealthy from them ? David Camerons father in law etc, etc We have our own vast supply of gas soon coming in from west of shetland, no interconnector, pipelines or additional windmill reqiuired. And just remember this, we could shut down every single item of convential energy burning in the entire UK tomorrow and return to an amish / medieval style existance and within 6 months China will have made up the difference. When are you gonna get with the programme?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/dec/03/uk-fracking-delay-shale-gas Fracking is coming and gas prices will start to fall in real terms, the technology will improve and windmills will be rendered pointless.. " In September 2011, Cuadrilla announced it had discovered 200 trillion cubic feet of "gas in place" within the Bowland prospect – potentially enough to service UK gas consumption for decades". "Given the now overwhelming body of scientific data which supports the extraction of gas from shale and the potential favourable economic impact that development of this industry in the UK (and Europe for that matter) would have, were it allowed to be developed, the tardiness of the UK government in allowing fracking to resume is mystifying, especially when one considers the prevailing economic circumstances in the UK," wrote Campbell. "The Bowland resource alone could meet much of the UK's domestic energy requirements for many years." It WILL solve our long terms issues of cheap energy generation - probably for the next 100-200 years at the very least. "Also, you haven't considered the geological formation of the shale rock - it is about 20x thicker than the thickest deposits in the US - that means that very few well heads will be required to extract the VAST quantities of gas there! "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/9731201/Blackpool-shale-gas-deposit-50pc-larger-than-first-thought.html 300 trillion cubic feet of gas.......

I was not suggesting floating da picter hoose on da london stock exchange. Just introducing a co-operative set up tae da dammed place. The cooncil can fill the gap in the meantime and then roll out the shares later. (payback) Still run and managed but we an elected board of directors from the share holding community. It might be communtiy owned but the only folk that are actually paying for it so far are those that are having there schools shut and ferry timetable reduced. And there are plenty o other things that should become co-operative owned and profit shared accordingly...... Roll on the revolution!!