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Clooty Cap

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  1. If I had a quid for every time I've heard that, Clooty..... The distances were set some time ago, agreed. But the figure has to be one that all drivers and cars can work with under normal road conditions. Quoting an individual cars' performance under fairly ideal conditions doesn't wash. If you wind back through the thread, you'll notice that I've tried to avoid discussing stopping/braking distances as they are arbitrary figures that are of fairly limited use (could you pace out 240ft accurately?), plus it doesn't compute in traffic (which is what we are talking about). That's why I keep mentioning the 'two second rule' (or four in the wet). Much more useful in a traffic situation. If you can't see sodall because it is so bad? Then ensure you can always stop in the distance you can see to be clear..... Quoting one cars breaking stats may not wash with you but even you can't deny that the overwhelming majority of cars on the road now, lets say from 1990 onwards, have the ability to stop from a set speed in a distance greatly reduced from those you'll see in the Highway Code. Anyway I shouldn't have used the Highway Code breaking stats in my last post as it doesnt do anything to help put my point across. What I was hoping to get across was exactly what you say in the end of your post, if you always ensure you've left enough space between you and the car in front then the chances of an accident occurring because of a fog light / break light mix up are reduced somewhat.
  2. Possibly. That would make it just the opinion of a DSA ADI who ran his own very successful driving school in Scotland for many years after working with BSM in the Midlands before that. Pass Plus, Post-test motorway lessons, Fleet training as well as the regular stuff. (Edit) It is also the opinion of the people who write "Roadcraft: The Police Drivers Handbook": "The brightness of foglights can mask the brakelights" (Observation and Anticipation. Page 35) And...... "Bear in mind foglights can mask you brakelights and dazzle drivers behind" (Bad Weather Conditions on Fast Moving Roads. Page 158). But, you're free to think what you want. The UK Gov web site and the highway code both state that the breaking distance from 60mph is 180ft, that's just breaking distance not including thinking time. A modern car like a Ford Focus will stop from 60mph in 110ft, sometimes even official documents, procedures and guidance can be based on outdated or even incorrect information.
  3. Presumably you mean this one?: Overly simplistic example designed to bang your opinion home. It would depend on the conditions at the time, what other factors led to the collision, speeds and distances involved. Or could it be that by answering my question you prove that your opinion on the use of fog lights is just that, your opinion. In a situation where the lead car is obeying the rules of the road and is perfectly road worthy, if the lead car was rear ended by a following car in fog who will the police and/or insurance company's try to blame the accident on?
  4. By your own admission, you have never driven in heavy, multi lane traffic in fog. When you're faced with a couple of hundred sets of tail/brake lights in front of you for hours on end, then believe me, you'll soon get fed up with those whose glaring fogs make life harder. eg: Night, just clear of fog and raining. Three solid lanes of traffic moving at 70mph. Cars to left and right of you. You've eased off the gas to regain your two second gap as the traffic up ahead bunches up. A quick look in your rear mirror to check behind on the car that's a bit on the close side, look forward again and there's a moments indecision whilst your brain works out if that car that's just dived into the gap in between you and the car in front is braking hard to avoid a collision or if it's their fog lights glaring at you. Brake hard to avoid a collision or ignore? Make the wrong call on a motorway or dual and it could be your last one.... It's a bit different from having just one or two sets of lights in front of you to worry about......... I may not have driven on a motorway but if I did I would attempt to ensure I was driving in a manner that I wouldn't need to rely on a split second decision to avoid a accident, reading the road ahead well enough can usually help avoid those types of situation. If it would be possible for you to forget about your motorway obsession for a minute, what do you think are the chances of you answering my question from before?
  5. Let's just say you're out driving in the fog and you're following a car with its rear fog lights on, suddenly there's a big crash and you've just run up the ass of the aforementioned car. The usual formalitys take place and the police turn up as you'd expect, how do you think the nice police officer will react when they hear you blame the crash on the fact that you couldn't tell the difference between the cars break lights and its fog lights, and how you feel that the car in front should have switched off its fogs to make it easier for you to differentiate between the 2 sets of lights. I wouldn't crash, as I'd be driving defensively and travelling at a speed (and distance) that allowed me plan ahead and make allowances for other drivers lack of consideration....... All I can suggest is that you go to any area that has heavy traffic on the road and then drive in fog and rain - preferably in a multi-lane situation at night. You might then rethink your comment about being 'unable to tell the difference'. Especially after driving, say, for a 100 miles in those conditions. You may not have a crash under those circumstances but the question still stands, what do you think a police officer would say to anyone who had an accident in foggy conditions, then proceeded to blame it on the car in front having its fog lights on, claiming it made it hard for them to distinguish between the fog and brake lights. I may not have any experience of motorway driving in those conditions but I have driven every road in Shetland in the worst fog Shetland has to offer and I can guarantee you that I've nerver had any problem distinguish brake lights from fog lights even in cars where they share the same light cluster.
  6. Let's just say you're out driving in the fog and you're following a car with its rear fog lights on, suddenly there's a big crash and you've just run up the ass of the aforementioned car. The usual formalitys take place and the police turn up as you'd expect, how do you think the nice police officer will react when they hear you blame the crash on the fact that you couldn't tell the difference between the cars break lights and its fog lights, and how you feel that the car in front should have switched off its fogs to make it easier for you to differentiate between the 2 sets of lights.
  7. dont know if anyone else has seen it but yahoo's home page has a link to the cheapest places to get fuel in uk, i would put up link but on phone just now and not sure how to. Anyway its showing the Grampian area as cheapest in UK with an average petrol price of 129.7, while it has shetland as the most expensive at 145.9 even if that data is a month old it just goes to show how much we are being ripped off especially when the next most expensive place is showing an average price of 137.9. I cant be the only person wondering how the investigation into fair pricing of fuel didn't find the suppliers guilty when there is such a massive difference in price between shetland and the mainland. I also cant help but wonder why i can buy a litre of fizzy juice in shetland for the same price as i can on the mainland yet a litre of fuel is 15 pence more, its strange that an essential product like fuel has an extra costs added on to cover transportation yet a luxury item like juice and alcohol dont.
  8. I'm a bit confused here peat, who's forcing someone to do something they don't want to? How can asking road users to drive to the standards required to pass your driving test be described as " forcing someone to do something they do not want to do"
  9. No ones advocating speeding as far as I can see but is it to much to ask for somebody who's in possession of a valid licence to drive in a manner that doesn't affect the efficient flow of traffic? I also feel far safer following a car driving at the appropriate speed for the road with the driver given their full attention to the road than I do following a car that's dondering along while the driver enjoys the views!!!
  10. I'm with soundview on this one, a car driving considerably slower than the allowed speed limit is one of the most frustratiing things you can come across while driving. I would also like to ask those who seem to be condoning the slower drivers amongst us, what do they think would happen if you drove at 10mph lower than the allowed speed limit during your driving test and why do you think the reason would be for this would be?
  11. Fine example of the underlying racism in Shetland. It was obviously a joke comment - for Gods sake grow up! So it's not racist if it's a joke? Sometimes a joke is just a joke, regardless of how much you want to get on your high horse about it. Having been born and brought up in Shetland, when i spent time at university in Aberdeen as the only Shetlander in my class my accent and place of origin was often a source of amusement for my fellow class mates but never once was I offended or did i feel uncomfortable with it as I knew that no malice was intended towards me from anyone who was making a joke at my expense regardless of how close a relationship I had with them.
  12. I'll need some more details about how many virgins i'll receive on entry to heaven and assurances that they'll all be female, but apart from that count me in. Cant do Sundays though, clashes with the other fella i worship, gotta keep your options open you know.
  13. The majority of the pubs in Lerwick are a joke, the Lounge and Marlix are probably the only 2 i wouldn't be embarrassed to take friends from south into. there seems to be an attitude among the bar owners of take the maximum out the pub while putting in the bare minimum of effort, and the fat man has to be the worst culprit for this, all of his establishments are severely dilapidated, smell worse than public toilets and are in serious need of modernisation. The customer is only there to be fleeced, tins of a certain cheap brand of energy drink that is very similar to the one that gives you wings cost up to £2.30, a mark up of near 4 times what you'd pay in a shop, and i have seen on occasion bar staff make 2 jager bombs using one tin of said drink yet charging for 2 shots of jagermeister and 2 tins of mixer. A bottle of beer could easily be upwards or £3 yet there's a good chance it wont even be cold. Having spent time living in Edinburgh a few years ago i noticed its the little things that make the biggest difference, I was happy to go for a night out in Edinburgh as most of the pubs we went to had clean toilets, had floors you didn't stick to, tables were regularly cleared of empty glasses and cleared and wiped clean when a group left a table, i cant remember once paying for entry into a night club only to be greeted by a smelly, dirty thread bare carpet or a wooden floor thats had that much drink spilled on it without being cleaned properly the varnish has turned black and is bubbling off the wood. I will however lay no blame at the staff of most of the pubs in lerwick, if i were earning around minimum wage and having to put up with what most of them do in a weekend I wouldn't last one night never mind do it as a full time job.
  14. This mirrors my attempts to gain employment at Sullom Voe, I have been advised on numerous occasions by someone who works for the company that undertakes scaffolding work on site that they need labourers for various jobs. I phoned and spoke to the manager of said company myself only to be told that they were so quiet just now that they were laying off not hiring, the person who advised me to call found this strange as they were about to start big jobs that required a large traveling workforce including lots of labourers to work alongside the skilled workers. I have been through this cycle many times now and i always get the same 2 answers, either its so quiet were laying people of or I'll be told to send a CV and they'll get in touch when they are hiring again. There is one thing I've been told to try that might improve my chances of gaining employment with this company, but as I am a terrible footballer I doubt very much that agreeing to play for Delting FC is going to do me much good.
  15. you're going of on some major tangents there bobdahog, the legalisation and controlled distribution of substances such as heroin is a totally different kettle o fish to the idea of providing heroin on prescription to addicts in an attempt to prevent crime and aid the rehabilitation of addicts. And if you want free beer become unemployed, as a registered alcoholic will receive extra benefits just the same as a registered drug addict does. "booze" may be legal but its among the most harmful substances to the body that a person can take, but you're right there is still a monkey load of alchys despite it being legal. No body's claiming that legalising heroin will suddenly result in there being no more heroin addicts but it will result in a drop in addiction rates but more importantly it will make it possible for an addict to still function and contribute to society, just like we all know plenty of alcoholics who are decent people that can hold down a job. Google opium use in Victorian Britain and you'll find plenty of examples of members of high society who were drug addicts yet well respected and fully able to contribute to society. you couldn't be more wrong if you tried, I want the same as you in that I want something to be done to stop the devastation that heroin is causing in our community its just that I think that the system we have in place at the moment is one of the major contributors of the problem and you think, well lets just say you think differently. Once again i agree with you bobdahog, smack is destructive but part of what makes it so destructive is its illicit nature. Look at the story in this weeks Shetland Times about a particularly strong batch of heroin thats doing the rounds just now, that wouldn't be a problem if it was a legal product that had controls governing its distribution. I have also witnessed far to many times the damage it does thats why i think its time to start looking at the problem from a different angle to find the right solution.
  16. Drug use in a small community like ours is always an emotive subject and times like these only amplify those feelings. I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments towards the dealer in this instance bobdahog but i fear you may be blinkered as to the bigger picture in which the governments drug policy has had a part to play in the loss of another young life in the isles. I don't for a second believe that any individual sets out with the intention of using such substances, most think that they'd never touch that rubbish but because they use less harmful recreational drugs such as cannabis or ecstasy then they are at risk of exposure to the kind of scumbag who will want to get them using the harder more dangerous drugs that can change somebodys drug use from a social activity to a potentially life threatening habit. Its the current drug policy that makes it possible for a dealer to entice someone to try the harder more profitable substance when the user themself would rather have a bit of cannabis so that they could get stoned and have a few joints with their mates. I know of someone who's ended up with addiction problems due to being told that they couldn't get a bit of hash but they could try heroin, they had it explained to them by a dealer that smoking a tiny bit of heroin was like smoking a hundred of your best joints at one go and it felt like the best stoned you'd ever experience but don't worry smoking its not addictive. As far as i can see there's only 2 ways of breaking this cycle. One way is stopping peoples urge to alter their state of mind, in other words stop people from wanting to get stoned, pissed, high, monged or whatever your preferred altered state of mind is. When you consider that since the first civilisations began humans have used drugs and/or alcohol for a variety of different reasons its highly unlikely that you're going to end the love affair within our lifetime. The second option is to control the distribution of such substances and to educate people on harms that they can cause, much like we do just now with one of the most harmful drugs known to man, alcohol. I know that this wont make the substances that are currently illegal any safer and there will still be tragic events that happen through missadventure but as changes in other countries drug policys have shown by removing the criminal element and by providing a constant clean supply you solve a lot of the problems associated with addiction and also see a surprising drop in addiction levels to.
  17. welcome op8s, cant disagree with anything you've posted so far but I'd be very surprised if everyone else is quite so welcoming of somebody with your point of view.
  18. surely the price of fuel in Shetland should only alter with each shipment onto the island otherwise like paul says the main supplier must be profiteering. Its also interesting to note that in Europe the fuel price dropped towards the end of January due to a drop in wholesale prices yet we had no such drop here in Britain but strangely enough as soon as the wholesale price rises due to the middle east situation the increase hits the forecourt almost instantly.
  19. I'm guessing the reason its such a brute of a facility is that it will eventually handle a load that matches the proposed sub sea cables maximum capacity, and as its converting AC voltage to DC voltage and stepping the voltage up to its transmission voltage (400kv i think) then a fair whack of the overall area will be made up of transformers and associated heat sinks. I wouldn't think it will be doing any juggling or switching though.
  20. I assumed they were basing these claims on the performance of the Burradale windmills since the subsidies that are available at present aren't a permanent income. Given that Burradale is already the most productive windmills in the world with an average capacity of over 50% there is a good chance that the modern more efficient windmills should be able to produce an even higher average capacity so even in a world without subsidies the windfarm should provide a good financial return, whether that return is as large as the oil terminals is open to debate.
  21. any number of reasons among them are that coal is readily available at a fairly stable price, the technology is well understood, and the efficiency of modern coal fired power plants is high.
  22. Yes indeed, a really good informative film, which,if screened before the March / Rally may have increased the overall turnout. I would have liked some footage of the bairns on the March / Rally who were holding on to some sheeting which was apparently the equivalent length of each blade......truly frightening to see the scale as was the model in the town hall showing one windmill and a 6 foot adult. The scale of this was terrifying comparing the 6 foot adult against the windmill and it's huge blades. Very scary.... where are our councillors conscience.....? Unfortunately our MP and MSP continue to sit on the fence Too late is the call from Tavish......... Personally my future vote for you is long gone Be aware that it is no longer a safe seat for the Liberals Or for something truly frightening you could just watch the reek that billows out of the lerwick power station every day, or think about the pollution it pumps into the marina at an alarming rate, pollution thats having a devastating effect on the local marine life. And the horrific noise that the power station produces, many a night during my youth whist i lived up the north road i'd lie awake and all i could here was the constant drone of the diesel engines. I also shudder to think what could happen if there was a spillage of the heavy diesel thats used as fuel in the power station during the re filling of the storage tanks. Its terrifying to think of some times, especially when i use words that sensationalize it.
  23. Maybe i'm not being obvious enough as to what the 50/50 i'm talking about is refering to. The ST poll shows roughly 1 third support, 1 third against and 1 third undecided. If the 1 third for and 1 third against were to contact ECU with their preference and the 1 third undecided do nothing while they make their minds up then of the people who have registered an opinion with the ECU the split would be nearly 50/50.
  24. What wasn't a 50/50 split? I think you've missed my point somewhat, i don't doubt that there are twice as many against the windfarm who haven't written to the ECU to object to the windfarm but the point i made is that had the supporters of the windfarm contacted the ECU with the same level of urgency and passion that the objectors already have then i would expect it to be a lot nearer a 50/50 split than the current figures show. The fact that the proposed windfarm has so far got approval from the powers that be means that those in favour of the project are far less likely to feel the need to contact the ECU backing the development or organise a march to show our support. The most recent ST poll suggests a pretty even 3 way split between those for, those againsts and the not sures, this would tend to imply that should all those for and all those against contact the ECU then there wouldn't be as large a gap in percentage between those in favour and those against as the current ratios suggest. Trust me there's nothing wrong with my maths but your interpretation of them needs some serious work.
  25. I cant speak for anyone else but this thick head has no problem understanding the ECU figures but that still doesn't mean that the majority of Shetlanders are against the windfarm it just shows that the ones against the windfarm are the ones who are shouting loudest to put their point across. If those for the windfarm and i would count myself as one of them, were to put the same amount of effort into our shouting the ECU official figures would probably show far nearer a 50/50 split. And i do wonder if that were to happen would you still give the ECU figures the same level of importance as you are now. As for the figures on the march i would very much doubt that the 350 you suggest is correct. Having seen the gathering at the cross and the march commencing at 11.30 this morning I'd put the number nearer 200 and thats being generous.
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