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    Kavi Ugl reacted to Ghostrider in 100 Days to Scottish Independence Referendum   
    Well, at least Shetland voted in the right direction, 5,669 for Yes and 9,951 for No, 36.3% Yes, 63.7% No.
     
    Just disappointed we didn't rack up a higher percentage than Orkney at 33% Yes, 67% No.
     
    I'm going to bed, the Mainland of Scotland is irrelevant to me, they can please themselves, we have what we need whatever they decide to do.
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from Scorrie in 100 Days to Scottish Independence Referendum   
    Scorrie, I'm vexed to hear yon but that was a common complaint from the start - you weren't even allowed to question or disagree with them. 
     
    Ken something?.  If the whole issue had been handled better and Shetland had been treated with some respect and given concrete, meaningful promises relating to Home Rule I just might have voted Yes.  Not so much for Scotland, but for Shetland's sake.
     
    For the record, I believe Scotland itself should be an independant country, but just don't feel Shetland should be part of it.
     
    For me, the Yes Shetland Facebook Page did more harm than good in relation to Shetland.  
     
    One wonders just how many of the No voters were actually supportive of an Independant Scotland but were repelled by the antics and aggression of the "Braveheart" mob. 
     
    Could it be that this cost them the referendum?.  
     
    Yes, I believe so....... 
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from Gorgonzola Butt-cheese in 100 Days to Scottish Independence Referendum   
    I didn't have much before but now I'm afraid I have no time for Alistair Carmichael at all.
     
    The independance campaign actually showed just how useless both he and Tavish Scott are.
     
    Alistair Carmichael still can't seem to get away from the British/Scottish angle rather than fighting Shetland's corner which is what he's elected to do.
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    Kavi Ugl reacted to Colin in 100 Days to Scottish Independence Referendum   
    A lot of the Yes supporters I know are acting like overgrown children who have had their toys snatched away.
     
    Not in my nature to gloat but, if ever anybody needed to be gloated at.??
     
    Lets face it, they puffed up their image by sticking posters and banners anywhere they could to try and create an impression of massive support and, in the end, tripped and fell flat on their faces..
     
    Having said that, there are now 1.6 million disgruntled voters in Scotland and, that is a problem.  Maybe it will die down or, maybe the cracks will widen.  It's going to take some pretty astute and honest politics from a 'statesman' to sort it out and, I don't believe that the Tories/Labour/Liberal leadership is up to the challenge.
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    Kavi Ugl reacted to tonydog in 100 Days to Scottish Independence Referendum   
    Love the comments from Brian Smith on the shetland times web site today
    It proves the saying
    It's best to keep your mouth closed and look an idiot , than to open it and dispell and doubt
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from Ghostrider in 100 Days to Scottish Independence Referendum   
    Well, as the dust settles(thank goodness) I think a moment of reflection is needed.
     
    I was heartened by the Shetland vote, but I think what was missed by the media and the most vocal people during the campaign is the fact that most Shetlanders still do not consider themselves as "Scottish" nor do they trust Scotland.
     
    I also think many Shetlanders didn't want to see themselves living in a socialist basket case where the few would be paying for the many.
     
    I was getting my hair cut a few weeks ago and the lady hairdresser said "I'm not Scottish, I'm a Shetlander first and British second".  Some can(and do) mock that attitude but it's true and reflects the fact that Shetland is just not Scotland. 
     
    The Yes Shetland Facebook page is still defiant this morning though and has posted a picture of a Saltire flag flying on a flagpole at Sumburgh.  It seems they just don't "get it"......
     
    I also think that in terms of Scotland many people were put off the Yes side because of their aggressive and arrogant attitude. 
     
    Sadly, I suspect there will be another referendum but that's for another day........
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from Frances144 in 100 Days to Scottish Independence Referendum   
    Well, as the dust settles(thank goodness) I think a moment of reflection is needed.
     
    I was heartened by the Shetland vote, but I think what was missed by the media and the most vocal people during the campaign is the fact that most Shetlanders still do not consider themselves as "Scottish" nor do they trust Scotland.
     
    I also think many Shetlanders didn't want to see themselves living in a socialist basket case where the few would be paying for the many.
     
    I was getting my hair cut a few weeks ago and the lady hairdresser said "I'm not Scottish, I'm a Shetlander first and British second".  Some can(and do) mock that attitude but it's true and reflects the fact that Shetland is just not Scotland. 
     
    The Yes Shetland Facebook page is still defiant this morning though and has posted a picture of a Saltire flag flying on a flagpole at Sumburgh.  It seems they just don't "get it"......
     
    I also think that in terms of Scotland many people were put off the Yes side because of their aggressive and arrogant attitude. 
     
    Sadly, I suspect there will be another referendum but that's for another day........
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    Kavi Ugl reacted to tonydog in 100 Days to Scottish Independence Referendum   
    Behave Alex and Nicola are Scotland's Arthur scargill they are willing to sell out the people for a a place in history
    Shetlands vote won't swing the result but it can leave a door open for our future, a high no vote will leave us options to go it solo or rejoin the UK
    If all the queues of people warning us are correct
    If we are split 50/ 50
    And we do go independent shetland is screwed we will have nailed our wonderful shetland flag to the saltire flagpole
    Shetland vote no and leave a door a little ajar to peek through
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from suuusssiiieee in 100 Days to Scottish Independence Referendum   
    I see the "Yes Shetland" Facebook page have posted yet another thread about how Shetland will not(and cannot) go for it's own independance.
     
    Yep, you read right, Yes Shetland say Scotland can have a vote on independance but Shetland can't.
     
    I can't reply to the thread because four weeks ago the Admins of the page blocked me for promoting Home Rule for Shetland.
     
    Disapointing to hear a certain "Freelance Journalist and Music Promoter" say on Good Mornng Scotland yesterday(BBC iplayer 01.10.)that it was only a "vocal minority" who want to see Home Rule for Shetland or a return to Norway.
     
    Whatever the true percentage, I don't like being refered to as a "vocal minority" as if I'm some kind of rabble-rouser.
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from Suffererof1crankymofo in 100 Days to Scottish Independence Referendum   
    I see the "Yes Shetland" Facebook page have posted yet another thread about how Shetland will not(and cannot) go for it's own independance.
     
    Yep, you read right, Yes Shetland say Scotland can have a vote on independance but Shetland can't.
     
    I can't reply to the thread because four weeks ago the Admins of the page blocked me for promoting Home Rule for Shetland.
     
    Disapointing to hear a certain "Freelance Journalist and Music Promoter" say on Good Mornng Scotland yesterday(BBC iplayer 01.10.)that it was only a "vocal minority" who want to see Home Rule for Shetland or a return to Norway.
     
    Whatever the true percentage, I don't like being refered to as a "vocal minority" as if I'm some kind of rabble-rouser.
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from magnie ii in Whit'na plane wis yun ?   
    Yes, they were en route to Faroe to help clamp down on Sea Shepherd who have been a menace in Faroe this summer.
     
    A grind took place on Saturday and 17 SS members were arrested for breaking the law.
     
    http://aktuelt.fo/17+hirdar+handtiknir+sigur+paul+watson.html
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from north in 100 Days to Scottish Independence Referendum   
    But that's the problem - there is no "we" or "ourselves" about it.
     
    Shetland may, by a leash, be under Scottish Law just now but the simple truth is that Shetland and Scotland are two seperate entities historically, culturally and politically.
     
    The SNP will hold the reigns in the event of a Yes vote for approx two years but they have offered absolutely nothing to Shetland.  All Nicola Sturgeon could say was that "we need independance to hand those powers down" but refused to even say what it would be. 
     
    It was total evasion and for me it's a deeply ominous sign that they have no intention of giving anything to Shetland.
     
    Also, those 2 years will give the Red Brigade the time to form a new Socialist Party that will blow the SNP out of the water and sweep into "power" at the first elections.
     
    Make no mistake, from what I've seen many if not most of the Yes supporters are looking for a new Socialist State.  
     
    And yet, the warning signs are already there from previous socialist incarnations.  Remember how the SSP was torn apart with in-fighting and splits?. 
     
    Shetland's Political Leaders need to get the finger out NOW and start planning for what we are going to do if there is a No vote from Shetland but a Yes vote from Scotland on the 18th September.
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    Kavi Ugl reacted to edcullen in A few facts about the EU that you may not be aware of?   
    A few facts about the EU that you may not be aware of?
     
    1 - If Scotland joins the euro, then it will mean handing over control of its interest rates and therefore house prices and employment levels to the EU bank ion Germany.
     
    2 - If Scotland joins the EU then it will also have to take on part of the EU £1.200 billion pension debt. Our pensions will be further placed in peril. Scotland will have to share every other country's debt and our average debt will rise from £4000 per head to £30000per head.
     
    3 - Over £5 billion is lost in the EU each year because of corruption. The money just disappears? No one does anything about this. All officials working for the EU have lifetime immunity from criminal prosecution. No buildings occupied by EU officials can be searched and archives are inviolable.
     
    4 - Membership of the EU costs each individual country's £1,250,000 per HOUR. 
     
    5 - The new European police force Known as Europol have no need for extradition processes because they will have rights across all national boundary's. Members of Europol are immune from prosecution for acts performed in the exercise of their duties.....
     
    6- Under EU law it will be possible for Europol officers to arrest Scottish citizens on (suspicion) of intending to commit a crime....The thought police are here!
     
    7 - One of Europol's first buildings was once the home of the Nazi Gestapo and Adolf Hitler was apparently the first person to openly speak about creating a new European super state.
     
    8 - Accused prisoners in Scottish courts will soon not have the right to see evidence against them before they are committed to trial. That's in response to an EU ruling. 
     
    9 - Another EU ruling means that the prosecution will soon be able to keep trying a defendant until they obtain a guilty verdict. Double Jeopardy is coming to a court near you. 
     
    10 - Under EU law, the presumption of innocence does not exist. The lay magistrate system is to be abandoned, Magistrates courts are to be closed and there will be NO trial by jury....no more innocent until proved guilty.
     
    11 - By the mid 1980s the number of laws created by the EU bureaucrats had exceeded the number of laws passed in the first 700 years of parliamentary democracy. The EU passes 300 new laws, Directives and regulations each year. Our MEPs play little or no part in approving this legislation, they are just employed to make it look good.
     
    12 - The EU plans to redefine terrorism as acts which seriously affect the political, economic or social structures of a member state or political organisation governed by international law. Read that carefully and you will see the scope that this new definition will offer the police. Obviously any company or political organisation will fall into the category of an organisation governed by international law. Under this new definition, anyone leafleting or writing an article criticising a multinational corporation will be classed as a terrorist. Anyone who writes an article opposing genetic engineering will be a terrorist since what they do will seriously affect the economic structure of an organisation governed by international law. Anyone publically or privately criticising a political party in power will be classed as a terrorist. It would be illegal for me to give you a list of side effects caused by a prescription drug. 
     
    This new law will be added to the existing list of Libel and to the mass of national and EU laws which exist to protect governments and multinational.
     
    13 - The EU has been compared to the former Soviet Union, there is a council of ministers (ruling clique) The European commission (Politburo) and a parliament (supreme soviet)The rulers are unaccountable to the people and are contemptuous of them. The people in power cannot be fired or held accountable to the people.
     
    14 - The EU has passed a directive on Dietary supplements which will ban over the counter sales of effective vitamin therapies and other natural remedies within the EU This new ruling was a cause of some considerable celebration for the international pharmaceutical industry. For patients and freedom it was a terrible blow.
     
    15 - After the people of Ireland had voted NO to joining the EU, the Irish government received enormous funding from the EU in order to promote a TV and media campaign to coerce the electorate into a 2nd vote. That funding came from our taxes.
     
    16 - Rubbish collection in Ireland now has to be paid for on a what you dispose of basis and costs are sky rocketing, many family's living in poverty are forced to hoard rubbish and this has resulted in an increase in vermin and health issues. Some garages have skips which charge 5 euros to dispose of 2 small bags at a time.
     
    17 - Free health care was abolished in Ireland after the EU took over i.e. no NHS. Its now 50 euros for you or your children to see the doctor.
     
    Does that sound like Independence to you?
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from Suffererof1crankymofo in Whit'na plane wis yun ?   
    He, he, he
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    Kavi Ugl reacted to Suffererof1crankymofo in Whit'na plane wis yun ?   
    Stuff the referendum, looks like the Danes have other plans and this was their reconnaissance mission
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from CrunchieSquirrel in School Closures   
    I can't believe what I'm hearing on Radio Shetland tonight and Radio Shetland seem cock-a-hoop about it.
     
    The Papa Stour school has had to be refurbished and re-opened all because a family from "Shropshire" have move there.
     
    Meanwhile, everybody else in Shetland is having to fight the closure of their schools tooth and nail.
     
    I despair, I really do.....
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from Berserker in 100 Days to Scottish Independence Referendum   
    Alex Salmond may have "come out fighting" in the debate last night but the whole debate itself was shallow and descended into the same old "ya-boo" politics.
     
    I'm semi-interested in politics but even I came within an inch of switching the tv off I was so fed up with it.
     
    I learnt and heard absolutely nothing new but what's crystal clear is that this is all about creating a socialist, left-wing utopia.  And mark my words, if the SNP come short on that, a new Socialist Party will be ushered in.
     
    Scotland is a Socialist, Left-Wing beast and it's never going to change. 
     
    The only thing the Scots are good at is fighting among themselves and it won't be long before all the euphoria wears off and they fall out and start fighting among themselves.
     
    They've had 15 years to devolve control to places like Shetland but it's never happened simply because they want to control everything.  And it will be the same in an Independant Scotland, if not worse.
     
    It's been bad enough under half power so I shudder to think what it'll be like with full power and fully unleashed......
     
    It's a NO from me.....
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    Kavi Ugl reacted to Ghostrider in Shetland history   
    That's pretty much where I'm at too. Regardless whether its legal or not, the result will stand as legal until proven otherwise, and I'd rather make my voice heard and make a difference now than get hung up on a point of principle. I can see where Calamity is coming from, but as I see it his stance is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. What he's advocating is still unproven, may never be proven, and may be disproven, in which case following his advice runs the risk of throwing away your opportunity to have a say on an issue that may well stand as legitimate. I don't buy the argument that acknowledging and participating in the referendum is to accept and endorse any Scots claim over Shetland, rather its using whatever means are at your disposal at any given time to reject any such claims by telling them you have no interest in their huffing, puffing and posturing.
     
    Scotland can do whatever they like, I really don't care, as I don't see it as any business of mine, however I do not want to see Shetland dragged along with them in to whatever schemes and ploys they have planned, and see any opportunity to state that opinion is a valid avenue to use to do so.
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from Ghostrider in Shetland history   
    I've just glanced over the Shetland News article about Nicola Sturgeon's visit today.
     
    STILL she/they persist is refering to Shetland/Orkney as "Scotland's Islands".  No we're not. 
     
    Even Radio Shetland have deliberately and persistantly used the phrase "Scotland's three island groups", but then that's no surprise because most nights it's more a case of "Good Evening Scotland" rather than "Good Evening Shetland". 
     
    I'm torn between going with Stuart Hill's argument that the Referendum is illegal in Shetland and not voting.
     
    But, I also don't want the Nats winning the vote because people like me didn't vote.......
     
    I'm thinking though, that if Shetland could just vote No then it sends the message that we want nothing to do with it and gives us the grounds for an alternative road.
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from shetlandpeat in independent scotland   
    I'm no fan of Westminster but Alex Salmond got destroyed by Alistair Darling in the last televised debate.
     
    It was actually painful to watch.
     
    I looked at the Yes Shetland facebook page after the programme and it was as if they'd been hit by a train with a mixture of stunned disbelief and a few posts admitting that he'd flumped it big time.
     
    This weekend, they've somehow gotten it into their heads that Alex Salmond actually "played a blinder" during the debate.
     
    That's almost like saying a boxer meant to get knocked out and there was a cunning plan behind it!.
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    Kavi Ugl reacted to Scorrie in independent scotland   
    Fair comment, you need checks and balances right across the political spectrum. The complete absence of one sector of the political scene is something that is definitely Not Good. The far right and left both have a part to play - even if it is only to make the more moderate parties pay attention a little more keenly......
    For example I think George Galloway is a complete ass, but he says what he thinks and doesn't give a monkeys about any criticism he may get. We need more politicians with gonads like that instead of 'toe the party line' career politicians.
     
    Personally, I'd like to see Holyrood completely full of independent MP's with not one of the 'old' parties getting a sniff. Ain't gonna happen, though.
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from Ghostrider in independent scotland   
    Politically speaking I'm probably centre ground, a tiny bit to the right.
     
    I believe 100% in helping the genuine poor and disabled whilst promoting personal and business freedom.
     
    I believe in a fairer society where decent, working people get a liveable wage but aren't hammered with taxes. At the moment we have the worst of both with people on poor wages being taxed to death because we're still picking up the pieces of New Labour's rein(Socialism).
     
    I know the minimum wage was brought in and that's to be welcomed but it's pointless when you take more than what you give.
     
     
    Socialism is a greedy monster that doesn't know when to stop and doesn't know the reality of economics. That's what happened in the 70s which is why I refered to the dark ages. That's also what happened in the 90s. New Labour did the same but under a different name.
     
    If an Independant Scotland is voted for it won't be long before either a Labour or a new Socialist Party is voted in and it'll be a disaster resulting in the oil industry and businesses leaving in droves because of insane tax levels, red tape and interfering government.
     
    If there was such a thing as Moderate Socialism it would probably be a good thing but there isn't and never will be.
     
    2016 and Scotland welcomes President Tommy Sheriden and his party Solidarity Scotland.
     
    Help......
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from Ghostrider in independent scotland   
    The "proposal" that has been published is frankly an insult and shows that the OIOF campaing has been a complete waste of time, money and effort.
     
    But then again I expected nothing less and like him or loathe him Stuart Hill was 100% right when he stated a few months ago that they were being strung along with fancy sounding meetings and hollow promises.
     
    I also saw a post on the Yes Shetland Facebook page last week which said that in the event of a Yes vote they need to dump Lamont/Labour and form a new re-invigerated Socialist Party.
     
    Sadly, that's huge part of what it's all about.
     
    It'll be a socialist state with a massive social welfare system(funded by the oil) and with all control centralised. It's like going back to the dark ages...
     
    Another comment I saw on the Yes Shetland page, and which was posted by the Administrators of the page no less, was "we're not fighting for Shetland, we're fighting for Scotland". And you want me to support you and vote YES??.
     
    And don't even think about disagreeing with them. More than one has and found that they were instantly pounded and thrown out the door.
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from tirvaluk in Norwegian Travel Article About Shetland   
    Very interesting and even glowing travel article about Shetland.
     
    I've translated it via Google Translate.
     
    It's very touching that it regards Shetland as a forgotten part of Norway and that it's regrettable we're no longer a part of their country.
     
    Things could change though
     
    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftablet.dagbladet.no%2F2014%2F08%2F02%2Ftema%2Freise%2Fshetland%2Fnorge%2Fferie%2F34172726%2F&edit-text=&act=url
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    Kavi Ugl got a reaction from humptygrumpty in David Cameron in Shetland   
    They might have visited in different capacities but I think you only need to look at the quiet, dignified way Queen Sonja conveyed herself compared to David Cameron's "crash, bang, I'm here and now I'm gone" visit.
     
    The front page of The Shetland Times was an embarrassment today and I know which article I read and it wasn't the one about DC...
     
    I think there was a valuable lesson for Shetland from this "double" visit - if only we'd learn it....
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