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Was wondering if there are any organic veg box schemes in Shetland...

^^^ We got ours from Evans and found them good to deal with.

Gostrider, I'm delighted to hear you favour revolution. I feel i should point out though that armed revolution is pretty pointless as the revolutionaries will be the new controlers. Look at Egypt. They had the army fighting for them but once the army took power they wouldn't give it back to the people, instead they have changed the rules in their favour and organised a sham election to try to quiet the people. It's not working!

Revolution will only be truly successful when it happens in the minds of the masses. A global awakening. We are the 99% and if we want a fair world all we need to do is leave our fears behind us and go for it.

I feel that a lot of people are missing one big point of the National strikes. The real issue here is that the government is doing this to divide and manipulate the masses. If they can get everyone squabbling over the this they wont notice that all the money is being wasted on immoral wars, tax breaks for the rich, subsidising big business and trying to patch up a collapsing and corrupt economic farce.

IMHO we should all get behind the national strike. If every person who could turned out to protest we could really make a difference. Forget about the failures of the past and embrace a new future which could really be fair. You wont see much about it in the news but all around the world people are occupying in protest. If we all were to stop fretting over the little things and just believe that now world peace is closer to our grasp that ever before... All WE HAVE TO DO IS STAND IN SOLIDARITY AGAINST THE TYRANNY OF THE OLIGARCHS, instead of squabbling over the scraps from their table.

Got it yet?

Just MHO of course.

Why do some people think everything is a Government consiracy?!

Maybe they didn't study physics

To make the roads safer I have a simple answer....Explosives! If every vehicle was fitted with an explosive that would blow the driver to smitherines if they crash. I think we would see an instant improvement in everyones driving

^^^Exactly that.

^^^ ^^^And that.

I had never realised rudeness was a concern before.

^^^ Well I've not spoken to him or read the tabloids but it just smacks of sensationalism to me. Whether that is just down to the press or JW himself is infinitely debatable without much conclusion. Can anyone shed any light on whether this has stopped him from being able to represent constituents on the matters that concern them?

I'm not irritated, just surprised that such a story can pull 7 pages of disscusion. If you reread, I also didn't say i support him either, just that I understand that people are prone to making blunders and that I for one can be understanding about this and not get dragged into the tabloids self serving lambasting.

Only sat it once and failed. Never tried again, got a bike instead and passed on that no trouble Once i had a bike I never wanted a car

Being scared of a dog is def going to make a person more likely to be bitten since all that nervous energy makes the dog nervous. Simple don't sit next to the dog. I would be delighted if pets could go on busses, since I come from an outer isle I can't keep a car roadworth on the mainland just incase I might need to get to the vet. And yes the vet can come to you, but it's not so easy for them to get to the outer isles and could prove very costly. If some of the busses alow pet they are presumably not that much of a problem and the other companies should do likewise and if they wont do it put it in the next contract so they have to.

WOW I can't believe this has run on for 7 pages!

Given that the gutter press never report anything without making it out to be more than it was so that folk'll want to read it; for the sun's buyers are not going to spend their money on humdrum; it seems to me this is just an unfortunate, laps of judgment on the part of JW when he has in a frustraiting disscusion. It comes as no surprise to me that such a gesture would be what comes to his mind at that 'moment' so soon after holding the silence, simple assosiation slipping out when it would have been better held in. I'm sure a lot of us have found ourselves doing and saying things we later regret when faced with disscusions that are frustraitingly going nowhere.

Look to ourselves befor passing judgment on another.....

To err is human....

Nice to see some have success in their gardens. Me, well I find at least half of what I try dies or fails to thrive, and what does survive then often turns out to be horribly invasive. Trial and error, and shear bloodymindedness keeps me going....That and a steady flow of free plants from momo's bountiful garden Just recently I've started looking to introduce more native species as we have some really nice ones and they will surely do well.

^ Do bees deposit a lot? I would have thought a bee poop would hardly be noticable.

I wouldn't worry too much about fuel left standing so much, but would absolutly advice running the engine with a load on at least bi-monthly for a good few hours. This will help keep your fuel fresh as you're using some regularly and it will let you know that the generator is capable of running your home, not just able to start.

When I feel the need to swear I just go ahead and type 'monkey' myself

There is little point in trying to tackle the problem of "wasters" by tackling the wasters themselves. The problem lies with the devaluing of parenting to get mothers out working so folk can afford all the stuff the advertisers tell us constantly that we need for happiness, keeping the capitalist wheels rolling. Bringing up the next generation is the most important and rewarding job you could ever hope to have, but after giving people, women particularly, the impression that it is better to get the bairns into a creche asap so they can get a "real job" It's no wonder if they get the idea that parenting is not that important and bairns grow up feeling less valued and with less personal discipline. What choice is there for these people? Jump on the capitalist bandwagon if they can, or opt out? Try and fail to find happiness because no one could teach them that it comes from within?

I noticed Norway mentioned earlier and one thing you can say for them is that they have kept the family as a core value within there society and this is unlikely to be coincidental to there lower rates of crime, drug abuse, broken homes, etc

I am not a god botherer but my values do agree with a lot of their core values. I believe that children are best born and brought up within one, stable family unit, where discipline, respect, trust and compassion are instilled. All this needs to be backed up by a wider society with the same values. I don't think we need go back to the god bothering old days, but we should have tried to keep some of these core values.

If you want a quick fix... all boys born could be sterilised and not be allowed to get it reversed until they can prove they have a stable and sufficient income, solid marriage, a home , and have passed a parenting course with there wives. That'll sort it all out in just a generation or so, but of course you'll have to go to war with the capitalist world at large, and be labeled a Hitler for having the audacity to try and sort things out.....So we'll just carry on in the same vein as before till we hit rock bottom

Thanks for the links MJ.

....And can you tell me why chat isn't working today?

I think it's a great idea

Yeah I've noticed a lot of those 'profile tracker apps' doing the rounds so I guess there are still a few suckers out there spreading them. I should've thought FB could put out warnings about them.

The government would tax the steam off a chanty a greth so it's probably right enough

I am new to this forum but joined as it seems the only safe place to discuss drugs in Shetland without being stigmatised for your views.

 

Many people I talk to are concerned about the effectiveness of dogs against drugs but are frightened to raise this in public in case they are seen as being in favour of drugs. I am in this category.

 

Now Shetland is getting more dogs. http://www.shetnews.co.uk/component/content/article/36-latest-new/360-second-dog-to-join-anti-drugs-charity.html

 

A lot of people think there is a very strong correlation between the initial introduction of the dogs and the rapid acceleration in the heroin problem in Shetland that followed shortly afterwards.

 

Orkney didn't introduce sniffer dogs and have nothing like the problems we have experienced. It is claimed that the dogs could easily smell strong odours from cannabis and because of its bulk it was the main drug that reduced when the dogs were first introduced. This left a vacuum for dealers to fill with more easily secreted heroin and the rest is history.

 

I understand it is still the case now and Shetland is a community that is mainly focused on hard drugs as the dog’s effect on the supply chain is to reduce profit and interest in transporting softer drugs.

 

Now this is all fairly basic economics. You press a segment in the supply chain and you affect some result. Unfortunately it appears that the dogs may be contributing to the very problem they are designed to resolve.

 

This fear may be abated if it is highly trained professional people with experience in illegal drug use who are behind the dogs against drugs. But again unfortunately, this does not seem to be the case. Somebody who seems quite good at removals and somebody who has done well in the oil industry seem to be heavily involved in extending this policy further.

 

I have looked at some of the debates on this board and have read several books on this subject. It is very complex and seems to me to need incredibly smart people to come up with the answers. I am not sure if handing over the controls to amateurs in this field is really the answer. No disrespect intended.

 

Perhaps Petrofac's £60,000 would be better used funding a thorough investigation into the drugs problem in Shetland carried out by fully qualified independent professionals making recommendations as to how best to tackle it. Maybe they could discover why heroin use exploded after sniffer dogs were introduced. It would be nice to know the real reasons for the situation in Shetland. Then we might be able to deal with it.

Could not have put it better myself. The situation has become rediculous but as usual no one wants to admit they've made a big mistake so they will keep throwing money at the DAD in the missguided belief that that will fix it...It wont! No proabition will stop the drug trade, only ensuring every member of society has a good life, free of neglect, abuse, injustice and boredom will make the problem go away, and even then it'd take generations to go. Can't see that happening, so hold on tight everyone for we are on a rapid downward spiral....IMHO