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  1. It has, in my opinion, come to an interesting stage now. The surge in "like based" social media has, in my opinion, fixed a lot of the issues (bear with me!). It is now FAR easier to spot those who haven't actually given anything any thought : They will literally repost something someone else has written, which got to the top of thier feed because it was liked by similar minded people, which will cause thier post to be liked by the same people, thus they spiral off into a delusion that the majority of people think the same as them and it is therefore fact and everything else is wrong. They will write something themself, often vague, then start adding links which are actually google search results they may not even have read. I find combining these makes it dead easy to filter out a large amount of drivel. You can also happily ignore facebook etc, as thats just stoness from top to bottom. The most unfortunate thing is the way some local news media seem to have decided to behave like facebook ranters, especially recently. But ignore that and stick to forums like Shetlink and you can still have meaninful debates with relatively sane people There are lots of good, sound, resources out there. Nothing fancy, but take for example things like planning applications. They are all there, with all related documents, for all to see. There are still facts out there. And as long as we stick to them, our differing opinions are all valid.
  2. I think it might surprise a lot of folk just how many people are in (a). One of the big problems is zero hours contracts, as they pretty much eliminate people from being abe to claim the "Top up" benefits, as there isn't a fixed weekly/monthly wage. Might be £400 this week, but only £100 next week. In that sense, a carefully structured UBI would certainly be a better system, so long as it still offers an incentive to work.
  3. If du reads da planning info, du will see yun wis a selective oot o context quote, and dat tourism and launch viewpoints (including disabled access to Lamba Ness) are an integral part of the project. Dunna believe anything on social media, check aathing yoursell den dir no mysteries
  4. Yuns da reference number for the official planning application, you can fin it here : https://pa.shetland.gov.uk/online-applications/ Decided to delete my follow up rant about how many folk these days bang on about "the man" doing everything behind closed doors when they've never been more open or easy to look through
  5. I find it hard to see how something published for all to see in the planning application, as you have made clear in your post, is in any way hidden from the public.
  6. I don't know where du got dat info fae but, whilst Shetland used ta hae a higher dan average wage in many cases, this is pretty rare these days. I winna go inta details as its a peerie place etc, but I keen first hand o both unskilled labour wark an HGV/Plant driving where companies on the mainland are offerin £2 or more per hour above the rates here. It's not a trivial amount. The boost fae the upsurge in construction here has really helped but it needs it aa yet. Even council wise, if you compare wi Orkney, let alone da mainland, similar posts salaries are considerably lower in Shetland. Ghostrider is right aboot some sectors dats fur sure, but its a difficult financial flow ta get up tae. Hospitality needs ta pay more, so charge more, but fok hae less ta spend and are less enthusiatic aboot travellin, so dir less comin in an so it goes. The level of minimum wage compared to rent and rates is proably the biggest issue however. Many folk simply can't afford to work, because they won't break even.
  7. Parcelforce is Royal Mail. Hendersons deliver for a few courier companies, no extra charges.
  8. Ok it wasn't supposed to be a detailed analysis, and I don't have a selection of tinned beans to work from even if I wanted to! The point is that most people don't buy cheaper products because they think they are better value for money, they buy them because they simply can't afford to buy a "better" option.
  9. This brings back memories of the old Chris Hodge debate years ago. Yes, if you can afford it, value for money is where it's at, but sadly more and more people and households are in the position, as I have been and have no shame in admitting it, where they know the brand name tin of beans would be better in every way, but it just isn't an option.
  10. I saw the first advert I had seen for an electric isles car a few weeks ago. £750 asking price. I canna wait for the next generation of Isles fixes. Yet another use for the trusty ZX Spectrum perhaps?
  11. Facebook haes the market cornered there!
  12. In the 60's and 70's "opposition" would have been "opportunity". And rightly so.
  13. I posted this on another thread but it's more approprite here : What would make this interesting to me is if the Alba party represent a fully independent Scotland, out of both the UK and the EU. If that's made clear, along with the SNP plan of trying to rejoin the EU, it will be interesting to see how it splits the vote.
  14. I think it has to go on where someone is registered to vote at the time. What would make this interesting to me is if the Alba party represent a fully independant Scotland, out of both the UK and the EU. If that's made clear, along with the SNP plan of trying to rejoin the EU, it will be interesting to see how it splits the vote.
  15. I've considered it since I was a teenager bagging up dead oiled birds on the beach. But just in a purely practical sense as you point out, it boggles my mind how folks can bang on about being sustainable but yet prefer to burn limited resources rather than use perfectly proven renewable ones. Perhaps part of the problem is that folks tend to have a disconnect or just flat out don't care when thinking of the environmental damage, or that its gonna be ages yet and something else will come along, but don't realise just how near we are to running so low the prices make it impossible, and just how far reaching the effects will be.
  16. @Ghostrider Good detailed post dere, and I am not goin to try to prove de wrong, but is du happy ta accept dat idder opinions exist? Similar ta de, I haven't hidden my views, which are that the construction is fantastic for Shetlands economy. I already keen wan young family thats been able to move back to Shetland because of dat alone and there are plenty more who will benefit. When they're finished, I accept some may see dem as an eyesore, but I canna wait ta see dem as I think dey look splended, and will really set aff da area. Da roads are already lookin brilliant! Finally, I believe everybody benefits fae dem when dey are up and running as its a huge amount of fossil fuels no longer being burnt, dat is indisputable. Sure, there could have been more finances directed locally, but thats always been secondary to the move to renewable (as opposed to green) energy for me. I just canna see any negatives. And I believe we are both right.
  17. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Youtube, Pintrest, Snapchat, Tumblr.... Or keep it simple wi Shetlink.
  18. See, yuns the thing. Most folk see the sense in it, the bigger picture, and lets face it the fact we have to do something else as fossil fuels are limited. Every time I see one of the windmills already up take a turn it just reminds me that's one less bit of polluting fuel burnt. Others have described them as "graceful" and "calming". It simply doesn't matter if some company is making money etc etc, what matters is it is better than burning more fuel. It really is that simple. There are a lot of people out there who are really happy to see the move to wind energy, especially among the younger folks, who just cant get their heads around why people wouldn't want it. All opinions of course, and that's where the "anti" campaign and facebook groups fall down. They have decided everything they do, including threatening and verbally abusive behavior, is 100% correct and no other opinion is valid.
  19. The gas plant comparison is very valid, and really highlights the emotive nature of the windfarm issue. The entire gas plant project was developed, proposed and constructed in a fraction of the time of what is now the Viking Energy Windfarm. Caused extensive disruption to peat and of course produces fossil fuels with all the negatives that brings. However, not a pleep in objection. Partly because if wasn't the "cool thing to object to" on social media, but also because the majority of people who are aware of them, myself included, are willing to balance the benefits both locally and in the bigger picture, with the damage and pollution they cause, knowing better options will come along sooner rather than later. I'm going to offer a very personal view now. I was born in the early 70's. I had no say in Sullom Voe Oil Terminal, though I do know there were councilors for an against at the time, and they were voted for accordingly. I totally understand the huge economic positives the oil industry has brought to Shetland. From roads and leisure, to the care services and beyond. Mismanagement and controversy aside, these funds have played a massive part in Shetland being what it is today, and still do. But they came, and come, at a price. As a young man, I had to clean up the dead oily birds from the shore. We had to wear shoes on a summer day at the beach because of tar balls. Even tonight, I look out at the bonny clear sky to the north, as the view south is dominated by the glow of the flare stack (and I live in Yell, for those who don't know). But no matter where we live. We all need power. Flowing through the power lines that claim the lives of many birds every year held up by ugly "hydro poles" all ower the islands. (Imagine that project starting now) So, thought all the local elections and public consultations, I fully supported the cleaner option, and as it developed from when the Susetter windmill went up in the 80's (my personal memory of the potential), voting for "The Windfarm" was the way I went. Now, at last, after all these decades of hope, I can finally see a sustainable future for Shetland that wir bairns can be proud of. And maybe I will be able to go on the back porch in a few years and see the stars in the southern hemisphere clearly fae hom for the first time. Already I know of at least one young Shetland family of four who have moved back home because of the work and promise from the windfarm. I posted this opinion, because that's what it is, my opinion, on social media a few weeks ago. It is staggering how many abusive private messages I got before I took it down. Ranging from calling me a liar to just straight up abuse. No fine, but I keen (hope) they're just caught up in mob mentality.
  20. I couldn't agree more. These groups are textbook examples of the core problem with much of modern social media, in that they serve no purpose but to enforce one view or another at the expense of any constructive debate or consideration of other opinions, and as you say, ultimately contribute to the detriment of the members. But as to the topic in hand, it is good to see this thread rediscovered, as it proves that contrary to one of the oft spouted mantra of no community involvement, the project has been a topic of debate since the beginning of Shetlink and well before. I am sure I am not alone in being glad the project has finally started as it will finally bring an end to the decades of consultations and domination of local politics.
  21. Dat it took 3 minutes to get to da punchline might resonate mair dan da fishing analogy
  22. It would indicate that a scary amount of people chose to ignore scientific fact, the reality of life around them and plain old common sense, choosing to believe random hellery on youtube instead.
  23. ^^ Yun might be my favorite post in da history o Shetlink! Nailed it bang on
  24. The law is the same, the penalties are different. In Scotland it's generally (except for repeat and severe, whatever that means, offences) a set fine of half the fee. In England it can technically go as far as Jail time.
  25. I The majority of ways* you can legally watch TV these days do not require a TV license. Do read the requirements carefully. I am sure many people are paying "because they have a TV" and don't realise the circumstances where the license is required are actually quite narrow. *not necessarily the way the majority watch as yet.
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