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Posts posted by Ironwithin

  1. On 02/02/2021 at 23:46, JGHR said:


    The Brexit referendum was absolutely undemocratic that is beyond question. The first past the post voting system can only be described as democratic because the population vote regularly.  Claiming that a vote which forsakes almost half of the population in perpetuity is somehow aligned with democratic principles is absurd.

    Glad!  Why are you glad? Do you understand the consequences for Shetland? Are you glad that Shetlands sheep farmers, fisherman and now mussel farmers have been sold down the river and many are going to find themselves in serious trouble.  What do you think it will mean for Shetlands economy if sheep farming and mussel farming is no longer viable? What if the Salmon farming industry becomes non viable, Grieg is already bailing out of Shetland and Scotland because they can't make money here, what if the rest shut up shop, would you be glad about that too?

    Here's a Shetland specific advantage of an independent Scotland for you and its the only one you should need:

    The SNP have promised to rejoin the EU. 

    Edit - reply to windwalker a couple of pages back, I somehow ballsed up the quote insertion.

    Admin edit - we fixed the quote for you (assuming you meant to quote the quote we quoted for you!)

    The mussel farmers in Shetland don’t export any to the EU so they will be fine.

    Griegs problems had nothing to do with brexit as they themselves have said and the other salmon companies in Shetland are doing fine.

    The main impact on the mussel and Finfish industry at the moment is COVID and not Brexit, as restaurants etc are closed or needing less product.

  2. Another problem with the EU and trade is that the current 28 countries have to agree so anything takes a ridiculous amount of time and there ends up with winner and loser countries in the EU. Countries dealing one to one is far quicker and can give more advantages to countries as you don’t have to lose out on say fish duty, due to a tariff wanted by someone else in the EU like turnip farmers in Belgium etc. The UK will do fine on trade out with the EU as it will be able to go after it’s own interests and not he hampered by 27 other countries wanting something else.

  3. Wish I could believe them but organizations have been crying wolf for far to long. For example from an article in the Spectator:


    "According to today’s IPCC report we now have 12 years to avert climate catastrophe. That might not sound long, but it means we are a good deal further away from doom that we were in 2007, when the WWF said we had five years to save the world. The doomsday clock hadn’t moved in 2011 when the International Energy Agency warned us that we had five years to start slashing carbon emissions or lose the chance forever. By last year it had shortened to three years, according to Christiana Figueres, the executive secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change. But now it’s right up at 12 years, presumably meaning that we can pretty twiddle our thumbs until 2030 – a whole 18 years after the WWF told us the world would come to an end if we didn’t slash carbon emissions."

  4. ^^^

    "Will BREXIT change that ? NO"

    Brexit changes everything, a small example is the 13% to 20% import tariff the EU charges Norway on processed salmon which effectively means all Norweigen salmon processing has been moved to Poland to avoid tariffs.

    What will happen to our fish farming industry?

    The USA is Scotlands main country that salmon is exported to and also China is getting increasingly important, so as we can get free trade deals with both that should boost exports to both. Also even with tariffs buyers in the EU will still buy Scottish salmon as it's a premium product. So Brexit should in the long term be a boost to the industry.

  5. April 26th 2016, a day of shame for the 289 Conservative MP's who denied 3000 vulnerable unaccompanied children from war torn Syria a chance of safety and dignity in our country.

    Is there even a shred of humanity left in this government?

    But they are in European safe countries such as France. Why are the French not dealing with them and taking them into care? How or why is it our responsibility? What about the pressure this would put on existing services and the children here that are in need?


    All the photos are of 5 year olds but mainly these are males who say they are under 18 but as has been shown in Norway 9 out of 10 of migrants claiming this are lieing when given medical scrutiny. They know the system and how it will be easier for them, you can't blame them. Also what about the threat to other children.


    A lot of these children are just to be used as a bridge head for the rest of the family to get in. In France people try to help these children which are supposedly on their own but then a family member will appear and say they are with them.


    Also think of all the future lives put at risk once they start to hear that unaccompanied children can get into the UK it would be a huge pull factor and is totally irresponsible.

  6. I would not allow 16yrs olds to vote, as they don't have enough life experience. The only reason it's being pushed at the moment is like with the snp for the Scottish referendum they think allowing them will mean more of a chance of a yes in the European referendum. As why trust them to vote but not to buy alcohol or drive?

  7. How match will Shetland disabled and elderly lose out if we let some Syrians come here? I feel sorry for them, but Shetlands money should just be for our own, its morally wrong anything else, that should be up to individuals if they want to spend their money differently. The Syrians that the uk is taking will trump any money anyone's sick elderly relation or disabled relation should be due. It's not right that our people lose out just so some people can feel good for helping some foreign people, it's morally wrong.

  8. I like the idea of COPE.

    It's a shame that it's getting negative posts.

    Now has the original reason for it gone?

    Wondering if the participants are only there so the able body's get paid? Where is it should be the other way around.

    I like the idea as well, but seems that in practice yet again it's a bit of a scam.


    If you are of Syrian origin then you're in luck, the council have a special offer on at the moment, whereby the local tax payer will bankroll your time here and some do-gooders will bake you a cake and furnish your bleak abode with many gifts and offerings of local delicacies.


    Oh yeah,  I forgot to mention the embittered bigots in my big screed about the joys of Shetland ! ;-)

    We still have people that if you don't "follow the script" like to cry and denounce you and shout you down. I can unstandardised why you would like to leave England, it's not what it was anymore after it was enriched and made vibrant. Luckily in Scotland we are more boring monoculture and cohesive.

  10. All it takes is for good people to give in to evil like the people who are hell bent on destroying our Europe one bit at a time. Our people have to protect ourselves, let the so called do gooders/traitors not be the majority. They make me so sad they hate what our forebears fought for so hard, they will be the death of Europe. Every poll I see is against any more migration. It has been the ruin of the west.

  11. Shetland collecting for the refugees and sending it to Calais I thought we had a migrant camp in Calais not a refugee camp, so who will exactly be getting these donations ?


    I was a bit alarmed to hear about people collecting for the people in Calais, as they should be claiming asylum in France. They are economic migrants otherwise. Its totally perverse that they wont stay in France and demand to go to the UK. People should not be giving them anything from the UK.

  12. I heard on the radio that the SIC are offering Shetland to take in migrants. Which may make a few councillors feel warm and fuzzy inside, but what about the huge waiting list for housing we already have, same for dentists and difficulty seeing a doctor. Seems unfair that people here already waiting on these things would then be shunted farther down the list just so the Council can spend more of our money on other things than the Shetland people so they can be PC. I don't mind individuals doing this out of their own pocket but not the Council.

  13. I think we should not be interfering and allow Assad to win, as although not the nicest of regimes, he kept law and order. Look at the chaos and death brought about from removing Saddam and Gaddafi, I would argue that in the long term it would have been better if we did not get involved and had left them in power as although some of their people may have suffered under them they kept order and a lot of the people are actually worse off now.

  14. Reading Northlinks side on the Shetnews site, I have to say I have changed my mind from thinking they were being total jobsworths to agreeing with Northlink, as it does sound late in the day they phoned ahead to say they would be held up. Also if you star allowing people to phone ahead and hold up the boat where does it end? Also what happens if the boat waits and then the person is far later than they said or never even turn up, how long does a boat wait?

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