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#826 Dratsy

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 07:27 PM

You are forgetting the number of times that the UK has intervened when regions around the world have wanted to break away from their respective countries without the say so of the ruling government, It would make their position in the international courts untenable if they were to deny us that right if we so wished.

#827 MuckleJoannie

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 10:23 PM

Certain conservatives are interested enough in the Shetland oilfields to propose the follwing amendment to the Scotland bill

(2D) A vote in a referendum held under subsection (2B) of this section which results in Scotland leaving the United Kingdom shall not be binding on the residents of the Orkney Islands or the Shetland Islands unless a majority of the residents of the Orkney Islands and the Shetland Islands who voted in such a referendum voted that Scotland should leave the United Kingdom.


http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-16730929

#828 crofter

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 10:29 PM

You are forgetting the number of times that the UK has intervened when regions around the world have wanted to break away from their respective countries without the say so of the ruling government, It would make their position in the international courts untenable if they were to deny us that right if we so wished.


If Shetland did negotiate for independence, and got it, we would soon be invaded by the US, to bring us the right kind of democracy...

#829 daveh

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:31 PM

^^

I love watching baseball so that could be an interesting outcome.

#830 NewMagnie

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 03:46 AM

Short answer? Because most of the proponents are a laughing stock and/or this 'window of opportunity' you speak of is a figment of your imagination.

#831 Kavi Ugl

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:26 AM

The short and simple answer is because most modern-day Shetlanders are more concerned with a trip to IKEA for a few bargains or, as I've mentioned before, what the latest sky package is.

I read the rather patronising editorial in the ST today which described any desire of Shetland breaking away from Scotland as "fantasy" unless there was a cohesive political group/movement and although that would be preferential I personally think it could be done with the combination of a new council leading the way and the support of the electorate via a referendum.

I don't understand this talk of legal/illegal - if a place like Shetland democratically decided to pursue a new consitutional avenue then why should some bully boy like Edinburgh or London be able to over-rule it?.

#832 shetlandpeat

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 12:17 PM

The only man to make a stand was our mate Stuart. He appeared to be the only one on the islands to make a stand. It did not quite go too well. Folk on here say they want it but no one has come forward to stand for it. Really, no one has the Niageras. I would think it may be that in the real world of names, they may more worried about any ridicule than defending what they say here is right. Other will chip in from the side.

#833 JustMe

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 12:38 PM

I don't understand this talk of legal/illegal - if a place like Shetland democratically decided to pursue a new constitutional avenue then why should some bully boy like Edinburgh or London be able to over-rule it?.

By the same logic why should the so called "Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire" not have declared independence from the UK and then applied to join the USSR?. Yes it was not an island but are we going to limit "freedom" to islands or can any community opt out of the UK?.

#834 crofter

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 02:09 AM

I see this on www.forvik.com

Somebody has hacked the site perhaps? :lol:


Difficult to say, its arguably of a similar standard to some of whats been posted previously, that the man himself has stood by. :?


Du might be right - there is a picture of the "rocket" there now, :shock:

http://forvik.com/in...e-ze1-completed

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#835 Kavi Ugl

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 07:19 PM

Whatever the motive, fair play to Tavish Scott for sticking his head above the parapit. Click on 1.06.

It's a pretty standard and poor BBC Scotland report i.e the "Northern Isles" ad nauseum, Up-Helly-Aa, Shetland fiddle music but Tavish makes some valid points.

The editor of The Shetland Times is just a scotophile and ex The Scotsman employee(i.e pro The Union) so no surprises regarding his negative and somewhat snooty attitude.


http://www.bbc.co.uk...and_18_03_2012/

#836 Infiltrator

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 12:47 PM

The only man to make a stand was our mate Stuart.


It did not quite go too well.


LOL, master of understatement there, could it have gone any worse?

Mind you, maybe he'll surpass himself yet with his latest venture and end up wiping out one of the Scatsta planes on his way into orbit.

#837 Kavi Ugl

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 06:58 PM

While most ordinary Shetlanders work for peanuts....

http://translate.goo...OgBlDbEnMX37W6g

#838 JohanofNess

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:26 PM

^Are most ordinary Shetlanders offshore workers?

#839 Para Handy

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 11:01 PM

SNP admits Shetland and Orkney could opt out of independent Scotland


http://www.telegraph...t-Scotland.html





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