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#1 DizzyKipper

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 03:21 PM

Just curious, down south most windows are replaced with PVCu, and new homes are built with them in. In Shetland they are all wood. Is it because you can't buy it here, so it's very expensive to get a south company in? Or the weather affects it badly? Or some other reason...

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 03:34 PM

A lot of the pvc windows struggle to cope with the wind, buckle and leak put in a good hardwood window and look after it and it will outlast you.
but like anything else neglect it like quite a few in council houses and they will be buggered in no time.

I had hardwood windows installed in my house 20 odd year ago when everest first had their ads on telly for their pvc windows and now this year they are replacing them and very proud they are about how long they have lasted, in the same period I have painted mine every 3 year with one coat of decent wood finish(valti) and now I will have to replace a few of the double glazed units as the seals have gone £100 on paint and another £100+/- for the double glazing and they will see me of this mortal coil, so my advice to you is go and see T&N

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 04:05 PM

garriocks make upvc windows and doors, most new build houses will use Scandinavian redwood windows such as uldal or nordan but these only come in standard sizes, they can also be aluclad if you arent wanting to paint them every 2 years

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 06:52 PM

I'll take hardwood over redwood anytime And when I got my windows from Smith and Harpers (T&N) they were using hardwood from sustainable plantations long before it became fashionable

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 11:42 PM

Ahh Ok, looks like hardwood then. All custom sized :( Another one started leaking overnight, and quite a few are misted. When it dries up will see if some sealant will do a temp fix whilst we look at the leak in the roof :cry:

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 12:08 AM

different folks have different needs , but myself, if i had to choose i'd also go for properly fitted decent hardwood, n thats after a long long time in the construction industry

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 08:19 PM

misting is just the double glazing unit ie the glass that is the problem DK and that is not too hard or expensive to replace, the leaky ones on the other hand should be replaced before they cause damage.

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 12:43 AM

yea, we put frame sealant on it and it still is coming in, not sure where though, it's at the top. Will have another look tomorrow. The misted units themselves although unsightly are not urgent.

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 07:29 PM

upvc windows come with a 10 year guarantee & fitted properly will out last wood any day. First what twists most, wood or upvc, upvc doesn't warp and is 100% water and airtight. I have a door fitted by Gibby 24/7, what a difference it made, from a door that leaked constantly and was as cold as sin, now I have a warm front porch that does not leak. By the way this doors are not made in Shetland, they are made in Elgin. (Nothing against Shetland made products). These windows are tested to an extremely high standard. Just a last comment. Why is Shetland the only place that still insists on using wooden windows/doors????????? (By the way it is not because they leak or are drafty)

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 07:42 PM

Why is Shetland the only place that still insists on using wooden windows/doors????????? (By the way it is not because they leak or are drafty)


its mainly because plastic looks slester :roll:

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 07:55 PM

We had UPVC window frames on the Council Estate where I used to live in East London. They were a burglar's dream, so much so that my neighbour on the ground floor caught some toe rag trying to break into his gaff (It didn't help in that said Council sub-contractors had installed them incorrectly in the first place). From Day 1, the windows were draughty. Six years on and I hear that the same windows are being replaced.

Perhaps not surprisingly, but every building survey I type up where UPVC window frames are installed come with the recommendation by the Building Surveyor (who, incidentally, is not on commission) to replace said ghastly windows with wooden ones, preferably with trickle ventilation or night latchers.

As far UPVC frames lasting longer; then how do you explain that many a Listed Building still has the original wooden frames going back several centuries provided, of course, that one maintains said wood correctly in the first place?!

Wood over UPVC any day.
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#12 mikeyboy

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Posted 05 October 2010 - 03:25 PM

When I moved into my place it was all UPVC and they were turd. All the windows leaked and two off the doors were warped. I got Derek Boulter to install wooden windows and doors and they are lovely. They look good and are hardwearing. Just a quick repaint every year or so.

#13 hakama

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 11:49 AM

Hello, Who is Derek Boulter, Thank you.



#14 magnie ii

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 12:28 PM

garriock brothers do some pretty tasty plastic windows more expensive than buildbase or the likes but ten times the window no gaps no leeks and still cheaper than wood



#15 Ghostrider

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 04:47 PM

Hello, Who is Derek Boulter, Thank you.


Bulter & Mulhern, builders. Based somewhere around Garthspool if I remember right.

#16 MuckleJoannie

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 10:08 PM

 

Hello, Who is Derek Boulter, Thank you.


Bulter & Mulhern, builders. Based somewhere around Garthspool if I remember right.

 

Tel: 01595 695572



#17 engineer21

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 02:41 PM

the problems arent with UPVc vs Wood, the problems are with poorly made, cheap UPVc  vs Wood windows..... had 3 yr old plastic windows in my house when i moved in bought south by previous owner, the hinges had seized and they were drafty (poor installiation) vs another house which has 12yr old locally made UPVc and still as good as new

 

the hardwood windows in the house, were ok but they were installed in the 1988 and had no insulation around them or in the dormers.....hence not only were they draughty but also everything around them. replaced with plastic to save the painting....

 

however there is something nice about a solid wood door, heavier and feels nicer than plastic

 

you pay for what you get at the end of the day



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Posted 19 August 2017 - 07:04 PM

In my opinion the problem is more with the glazing rather than whether the window is made of of plastic or wood.

 

Not sure if this is a problem with the local glass firm or the sealants used,but some of the units do not last long before moisture appears between the panes.

 

Also a problem to find the hardware for some windows,they appear to use non standard sizes! 



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Posted 20 August 2017 - 03:13 PM

We have locally made plastic windows in the original part of our house and they are poorly made rubbish, draughty, noisy, we have to put cardboard under the catches to get them to close tightly as bits have broken off, and if you leave them on the first catch and someone opens the door they blow right open, we have slightly newer plastic windows upstairs which are alot better but i opted for alu clad Nordans for the extension and will be replacing all the other windows with these over a period of time.