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#1 gricylipper

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 07:18 PM

Does anyone know whats wrong with the new tugs at Sullom Voe ? been here a good few weeks now and still not in service. Seems like the council have paid goodness knows how many millions on a pair of white/blue elephants !.

#2 Romeo

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 07:48 PM

Thought I saw them both out working with a ship a couple of days back?

#3 Kavi Ugl

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 08:04 PM

Yes, I saw them on AIS up in Yell Sund a day or two ago but I guess that's not to say all is well(?).

Apparently they're not licensed or something for open waters which in my book is madness.

#4 Kavi Ugl

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 05:41 PM

http://www.shetlandt...olan-and-tanker

:shock:

#5 Ironwithin

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 06:54 PM

Wonder how much this is going to costs us?

#6 Para Handy

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 11:30 PM

What did you expect the council had a hand in the design spec of it all no wonder the are not fit for the job

#7 hairyian

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 11:40 PM

Wonder how much this is going to costs us?


Ferries ? Why not let Edinburgh take on the Tugs ?
We can then debate which organisation has the most inept folk in charge.

Meanwhile costs ? Well of course the new tugs were to save money, which one year on is clearly not happening.

Then one year of ongoing problems, most purchasers would already be knee deep in lawyers paperwork to get a resolution or their money back.
No mention of this makes me think SIC got what they asked for and the Ship Yard will be saying it is not their problem if it is not suitable?

I can't find any public information on who the naval architect is and if an independent body was employed to supervise the building and commissioning.

#8 JustMe

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 06:34 AM

Did this sort of thing not happen last time there were new tugs?

#9 shetlandpeat

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 08:39 AM

No matter who is to blame, as that has not been established yet, no one was hurt, that is the main thing.

I am looking forward to full implementation of Community Involvement, they could hold the voter to blame. I guess though, not because it was mentioned here that there has already been dialogue with the manufacturers agents.

#10 Kavi Ugl

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 09:47 AM

I fear this is exactly what the shipyard are saying i.e we gave you what you asked us to build and what you paid for.....

I would also imagine(give the way of things now) that the Sella Ness management bouldered on in the design etc of the new tugs without involving the existing very experienced tug crews who probably could have given them some invaluable advice and direction which in turn could well have helped avoid this dreadful situation.

I have heard that a suggestion has been made to just sell them.....

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 11:32 AM

As usual with the SIC, probably too many 'experts' have been involved in creating a new design rather than something tried and tested.

After the Linga and Westering Homewards, you would have thought they would have learned earlier lessons.

#12 hairyian

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 12:58 PM

Did this sort of thing not happen last time there were new tugs?


That predates the current ownership. At that time it was a profesional towage company running things.

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 11:47 PM

I seem to recall that the problems with the previous tugs concerned them not achieving the required bollard pull.
Rumour has it that the problems with the current new tugs concerns handling and reliability, which is a much more serious problem for those who crew them.
When supposed to be going in a straight line the tugs are crabbing like a yacht making leeway, and what is worse this crabbing can flop from one side to the other.
When on the bow line the last thing wanted is a loss of control or a blackout, which can easily result in the loss of tug and more importantly the crew.
It appears that luckily in this case the tug was close under the bow and about to let go the line at the time the problem occurred.

Sella Ness have already gone on record stating that there is nothing wrong with the tugs so it would be rather optimistic to expect the yard to accept a change of hart now and meet any costs.
I also hear that Sella Ness have decided that the bulbous bow is the problem although others feel the skeg is a more likely option.

Roger Moore has stated that there is no evidence of mechanical failure, is he splitting hairs and differentiating mechanical from electronic, or implying that the crew were at fault?

#14 Ironwithin

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 10:29 AM

Whats a few millions between the Council? No heads will roll, or people sacked, just millions to try and sort out a sows ear, all the amazing savings they have made they can afford it.

#15 Para Handy

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 10:18 PM

Well after the Norröna and now the Tugs?
Our council seems to only waste money in ships of the (Titanic) quality
They should get out of the shipping industry as quickly as possible

#16 Kavi Ugl

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 10:46 PM

Whats a few millions between the Council? No heads will roll, or people sacked, just millions to try and sort out a sows ear, all the amazing savings they have made they can afford it.


This is half the problem - nobody is ever accountable at the SIC.

Who specified and sanctioned the design?, and how could they get it so badly wrong?.

My fear is the vessels are fundamentally flawed and beyond fixing but I guess time will tell.....

Oh, and I'll need somebody to tell what a skeg is!.

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 11:23 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeg

#18 HatMan

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 01:11 AM

http://shipbuildingt...rd-Pull-Tug.jpg

pic of the skeg, on a voith tractor tug.

#19 HatMan

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:01 PM

Rats & sinking ships. Is there imminent danger of excrement and fans?

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:10 PM

Rats & sinking ships. Is there imminent danger of excrement and fans?

Some idea of what you speak about would be helpful, are you referring to something that was posted last December? Or what?