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#41 ll

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 01:11 PM

Having remained pretty steady for a few years now, the number of ships is to fall by around 20% this year.

It would seem like there are more than a few things having an adverse effect on tourism at present:

* Tesco effect on da Street
* Reduced assistance form SIC/increased competition from SIC funded competition
* Long term re-allocation of resources to oil industry (transport + accomodation, etc)
* Uncertainty over Viking Energy project
* Confusion created by having two official tourism bodies for Shetland
* Proposed closure of public toilets

It will take more than knocking down the old toilets to maintain and stop the current decline.

#42 MuckleJoannie

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 01:20 PM

That Leasks building would make an excellent "Craft Village".

As the owner of the two ponies that wore the cardigans, I have offered to bring them down to meet and greet on behalf of VS. The offer is there.


The Leask's building is in a brilliant location for tourists. I have heard though that the expense of convering it to an eating place are almost prohibitive, due to the regulations to be met.

It would be a good to have your ponies in cardigans meet cruise ships Frances. With all the exposure they and the moon dancing one got I am sure that may tourists will be expecting to see them. More traditional than bagpipes!

#43 Malcolm

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 01:31 PM

One idea I had was to follow the foreign marketing ways and have local craft stalls set up when cruise liners come in (weather permitting). Market cross could take half a dozen stalls plus areas with a setback (ie outside cope,boots & the RSB etc).

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:46 PM

Leasks are still using the building. Perhaps an idea to contact them to see if Leasks can be leased?

Living Lerwick may have some input there, as they have already installed and paid for the running of the town festoons.

#45 Frances144

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:29 PM

When I said Craft Village, I meant more like selling craft work, jewellery, wool things, felted stuff, potter, woodwork, not really the edible crafts.

As for the ponies, they are both very amenable little equines who would happily meet and greet with or without the knitwear (which belongs to VS). They know. The offer is there. The price is not prohibitive.

But one bagpipe and we are out of there pronto.

#46 suuusssiiieee

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 09:12 AM

Any update on your pony offer Frances?

Well Lerwick gets in on the liners tomorrow with the Quest arriving in port carrying 31 passengers. Not exactly an invasion (given the 3,000 that landed in Kirkwall yesterday) but at least it's a start.

2013 season is looking poor 41-42 visits at best and that's if there are no cancellations.

And now there's that barge full of stone at Holmsgarth which if delayed in getting it unloaded could block that cruise ship berth for weeks! You could not make it up!....it looks like this place seems to do it best to encourage ships NOT to come back... :roll:

#47 Frances144

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 09:17 AM

No, I have suggested it again. Even offered to build a three sided free mstanding white post and rail farmyard style fence.

Silence.

Was told to talk to LPA about H&S, though.

I think it should not be us arranging it but part of Visit Scotland's original promotion or even Promote Shetland.

So far, nothing.

#48 suuusssiiieee

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 09:32 AM

Frances im sorry to hear that your efforts are landing on deaf ears, to be honest i half expected that answer from you. It is a great gesture from yourself, and something different, but perhaps for the LPA and the joke that is promote Shetland it is to radical an idea because "we didn't think of it first".

I honestly don't know what's wrong with this Island.

#49 Kavi Ugl

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 11:17 AM

Sadly, neither am I surprised :(

Something that has been "offered on a plate" to them and would be an absolute show stealer with the cruise visitors and it gets nowhere.

That's tourism in Shetland for you......

I've said it before and I'll say it again, but the current "product" is cr*p.

The one glimmer of light I saw recently was the scale Killer Whale at the Scy Museum. What an eye-catcher!.

They must have seen a previous post of mine :lol:

#50 suuusssiiieee

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 06:39 PM

Well that was a busy day for the town with all the ships in, and i understand there has to be security arrangements for the ships, but i have never had to navigate walking around so many barriers on the waterfront today in my life. Think that aspect of things has definitely gone OTT.

#51 Colin

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 09:03 PM

Well that was a busy day for the town with all the ships in, and i understand there has to be security arrangements for the ships, but i have never had to navigate walking around so many barriers on the waterfront today in my life. Think that aspect of things has definitely gone OTT.


"Small town security"(?) has always gone OTT.. eg Sumburgh Airport...

You shouldn't really expect anything different in town.

Pity, now they are trying to run everyone's life..

#52 shetlandpeat

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 09:07 PM

Were there any pipes, they are there to scare the locals apparently?

#53 suuusssiiieee

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 07:55 AM

No pipes i'm pleased to report, and no ponies either. Still think this port could do more for passengers staying in the town, ie stalls, entertainment etc.

Again the fabled cruise pavilion had only one local and no passengers go in it in all the time i was on the pier, waste of money and time it is.

#54 Wheelsup

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 01:01 PM

I think we are lucky that we can still usually access the piers and that there isn't a rent-a-thug standing in the way. Most of the cruise ship visitors I have met don't want to spend any serious money. I am sure if you want to set out a stall and sell trinkets then you would be welcome, as I am sure if there was money to be made you'ld be trampled in the rush.

#55 tirvaluk

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 07:21 PM

A few shop keepers have said that they make far more money from visiting yachts than they do from any cruise liners.
Sadly the vast majority of cruise passengers just want a quick look around and tick the box, and go.

#56 Kavi Ugl

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 03:53 PM

Well, another huge and rather nice looking cruise ship was in Lerwick harbour today and the streets were heaving with tourists.

Unfortunately, that's where the good bit ends after hearing of an incident from a friend today.

Cruise Tourist - "excuse me, can you tell me where the main street is?".

Friend - "erm, this is it".

Cruise Tourist - "....you're kidding?".

I went for a look at the ship after work and must say that many buildings and areas/pockets of the town centre are looking very neglected and run down.

Not good.... :(

#57 Rasmie

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 07:10 PM

I am afraid Lerwick never was much of a shopping highspot, just not enough of a population to support the bigger outlets and the locals too well off for locals to spend time
the makkin jumpers and bonnets.

#58 suuusssiiieee

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 01:53 PM

Kavi that's pretty disheartening to hear about that one particular tourist.

Indeed walking the street on Friday i was amazed at how shabby it has become, DE Shoes for example has very poor paintwork outside their shop. It's maybe just a trivial thing but it looks sad to see.

Lerwick the "grey town" as the Norwegians say....

#59 Kavi Ugl

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 04:07 PM

The whole present situation is disheartening and it just seems as if nobody will listen.

Unfortunately that incident I mentioned isn't an isolated one. Another friend of mine had a similar incident just a month or so ago and was asked pretty much the exact same thing. It was another cruise tourist who asked "is this it?".

The Shetland Museum can't even bring themselves to fly the Norwegian flag as a mark of respect to Shetland's Norwegian/Scandinavian history and links.....

Talking of run down buildings just look at how worn and run down the houses on the sea front of Clickimin Road in Lerwick are.....

#60 klanky

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 06:39 PM

I wouldn't expect much else from cruise tourists, they tend to be in the same league as coach tourists: turn up, wander around, buy a postcard, tick the box and move on.

As for negative comments, the same applies. I can think of hundreds of similar comments/incidents when I was involved with dealing with tourists in the UK.

As an example (In the grounds of Warwick Castle after just being dropped off by a coach):

"Could you tell me where the village is?"
"What village is that?"
"Warwick village"
"Uh, I'm afraid Warwick is a bit bigger than a village, it's a busy town"
"No, it's a village"
"Well, the town centre is through that archway and across that busy main road"
"No, I demand to know where the village is!"

Or, when taking a booking on a sightseeing boat trip in Scotland:

"At what time do the dolphins appear? I'm not paying if they don't turn up"


The ignorant ones are always the most vocal...... :D