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#106 shetlandpeat

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 08:26 PM

For the English, a Yes vote would be catastrophic. The national Labour Party and the national Cooperative Party would never be able to win a democratic election and Govern, this void would leave the Right wing and facists to fight amongst themselves to claim England and Wales. So while some may wish this to be the case, it will certainly change the country. Which, Scotland will still need to have links with.

 

It is an interesting senario, the rise of England First, their parent the BNP, UKIP and the Tories.

 

This could lead to a mass exodus, north perhaps. I would imagine that folk could claim Scottish nationality in a similar way they can claim duel nationality now.

 

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#107 Ghostrider

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 09:05 PM

This could lead to a mass exodus, north perhaps. I would imagine that folk could claim Scottish nationality in a similar way they can claim duel nationality now.

 

Why bother relocating so far, I'm sure if the few left wingers further south moved to Merseyside, Lancashire, Yorkshire and Tyneside and thereabouts they'd create an overwhelming majority capable of forming their own breakaway Communist state of Northern England, let the civil war (re)commence.


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#108 shetlandpeat

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 09:23 PM

Too many conspirators. Now, you trying to dictate movement of Labour?

 

On balance, looking at the info I have found, the No crew have the swing at the moment. The more the SNP are involved, the more it will edge to NO. Folk cannot see past the personalities, can you?



#109 Ghostrider

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 09:59 PM

^ Find me a politician with a personality, and I'll let you know.



#110 Kavi Ugl

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 10:00 PM

I'm no fan of Westminster but Alex Salmond got destroyed by Alistair Darling in the last televised debate.

It was actually painful to watch.

I looked at the Yes Shetland facebook page after the programme and it was as if they'd been hit by a train with a mixture of stunned disbelief and a few posts admitting that he'd flumped it big time.

This weekend, they've somehow gotten it into their heads that Alex Salmond actually "played a blinder" during the debate.

That's almost like saying a boxer meant to get knocked out and there was a cunning plan behind it!.

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#111 shetlandpeat

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 10:20 PM


That's almost like saying a boxer meant to get knocked out and there was a cunning plan behind it!.

Perhaps he has YES on the soles of his Lonsdale Boots. Win Win in any boxing situation.



#112 Who Knows

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 12:16 PM

Someone missed the memo on love bombing Scotland from our Primeminister David Cameron as the media today focus on a story about the backlash from either a no vote or a yes vote to Scotland from the rest of the UK.

In the event of a no vote demands are allegedly being made to reduce public expenditure down to UK average levels, which takes roughly £4 billion out of the Holyrood Parliament budget and reduce Scottish influence and representation in Westminister by a number of measures including reducing the number of MPs further.

http://www.heraldsco...rendum.25092377

http://www.thetimes....icle4181385.ece

https://archive.today/I8wXQ

https://archive.today/gvHj2

The implications of the £4 billion cuts and the knock on effect for Shetland was previously covered elsewhere on Shetlink.

https://www.shetlink...on-the-horizon/

#113 Wheelsup

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 04:56 AM

Its been asked here before, but if I buy my car tax now, will it be valid in an Indy Scotland? And in future will we able to drive South of the border, and vice versa, without paying an English car tax, as is done in some  parts of Europe e.g. Switzerland? What happens when I go to buy a new passport for my holidays> Will a Scottish one be available ? Who Knows knows?



#114 Scorrie

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 05:10 AM

For the English, a Yes vote would be catastrophic. The national Labour Party and the national Cooperative Party would never be able to win a democratic election and Govern, this void would leave the Right wing and facists to fight amongst themselves to claim England and Wales. So while some may wish this to be the case, it will certainly change the country. Which, Scotland will still need to have links with.

 

It is an interesting senario, the rise of England First, their parent the BNP, UKIP and the Tories.

 

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I meant to comment on this a few days ago...then promptly forgot!

 

SP:  Read 'Protest Vote - How Politicians Lost the Plot'. It is about the rise of UKIP, a very entertaining book.

It is written by a guy who definitely has leanings towards UKIP, but sheds some interesting light on the state of (mainly) English politics and looks at why UKIP have gained so much ground over the traditional Red/Blue parties. A good read.



#115 Who Knows

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 06:43 AM

Following a Yes vote the new separate country of Scotland will not exist until March 2016 so you can only get a UK passport till that date.

However if you wish after that date you can still get a UK partnership as everyone who lived in Scotland and held British Citizenship will continue to hold that citizenship and can choose joint citizenship or just retain their UK citizenship.

The UK Government paper confirms this in their referendum papers and also reported in the media.

https://www.gov.uk/g...and-citizenship
http://www.heraldsco...e-vote.23257477

Further had been previously been covered by the Westminster Parliament.

http://www.parliamen...nd-citizenship/

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 05:28 PM

Following a Yes vote the new separate country of Scotland will not exist until March 2016 so you can only get a UK passport till that date.

However if you wish after that date you can still get a UK partnership as everyone who lived in Scotland and held British Citizenship will continue to hold that citizenship and can choose joint citizenship or just retain their UK citizenship.

The UK Government paper confirms this in their referendum papers and also reported in the media.

https://www.gov.uk/g...and-citizenship
http://www.heraldsco...e-vote.23257477

Further had been previously been covered by the Westminster Parliament.

http://www.parliamen...nd-citizenship/

 

I'm pretty certain it is all covered in the White paper as well, worth reading even if you are a confirmed 'No' vote.



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Posted 15 September 2014 - 09:27 AM

it seems that china is buying scottish oil companies operating on the north sea, does this mean that the oil is still scottish, despite the chinese buying it?????


This means they still pay the same cooperation tax! Wherever they're from!

#118 Rasmie

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 01:22 PM

Just like Starbucks and Amazon cooperate



#119 Scorrie

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Posted 15 September 2014 - 03:08 PM

You can't really blame companies for playing within the rules to minimise their tax bill. Let's face it, none of us would turn down the opportunity to pay less if an accountant said it could be done legally.

 

The answer is to change the legislation to ensure there are no loopholes.


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