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#21 Ghostrider

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 11:15 AM

the trouble you had is mainly down to that GBH is a small hospital its not possible to have the patient mix on a small ward that happens up here were compromises are not made.


Compromises are one thing, but when you compromise and it results in an inferior level of care and/or conditions that would be considered unacceptable in any other circumstance, its a compromise too far. Are we supposed to just sit back and accept a second rate service because of where we happen to live.

 

 

the chap shouting out would at a guess either had dementia or was coming down off something. its not legal to medicate a noisy patient if there condition does not warrant it.

 

And leaving some guy in such a state of paranoia and delusion that he's so scared that he can neither keep quiet or sleep, isn't condition enough to warrant even a mild sedative? Never mind that his behaviour was creating an impossible situation for anyone else in the room, and the consequences for their health.

 

i know for a fact that the staff on both wards are dedicated and caring. those that are not do not last long on the wards. SERIOUSLY THE NURSES DO CARE.

 

I'll run with that, subject to the following amendments.... "SERIOUSLY SOME OF THE NURSES DO CARE".



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Posted 21 January 2014 - 11:24 AM

Should I fill in this survey?

I don't know, I could however complete the paper and copy it to here,.....

 

I think I could see this as having a certain amount of potential.

 

Good Luck with your appointment today, hopefully the outcome leads to a speedy resolution of your problem. Its taken them long enough to get this far.



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Posted 21 January 2014 - 11:27 AM

 

Should I fill in this survey?

I don't know, I could however complete the paper and copy it to here,.....

 

I think I could see this as having a certain amount of potential.

 

Good Luck with your appointment today, hopefully the outcome leads to a speedy resolution of your problem. Its taken them long enough to get this far.

 

 

Alternatively, just phone their Complaints Officer.  She's pretty good.



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Posted 21 January 2014 - 03:40 PM

I wish I had done all this when I was at Woodend.

Bresail, I am thinking of you and totally understand what you are writing.  By putting it here, you have, if nothing else, made me feel not so alone with all the problems I had last year.  

 

I was a trained nurse.  I did nights.  I sat with patients.  There were two of us on a 24 bed surgical ward.  We found time, we found someone, we did not give up and make the patients put up.



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Posted 21 January 2014 - 05:59 PM

There are some lovely nurses at the GBH and ARI that really do care. ....and then there are some others who are rude, uncaring and I wonder what ever attracted them to the profession in the first place.

 

This is the short version of our own horror story of the GBH, ARI and their complete inability to communicate amongst themselves, GP, patient and their family.

 

Elderly patient is kept in GBH while awaiting transfer to ARI to see specialist at GP's urgent request. Foot wound is not treated/ dressed at GBH in a number of days (!). GBH consultant decides that patient "does not need specialist appointment" and takes it upon himself to cancel said appointment. Discharges patient home on Christmas Eve because "it's just a bit of Cellulitis.". GP (upon hearing this from family) moves heaven and earth to reinstate appointment which was days away. Gangrene set in. District nurse/ GP homevisit on a daily basis.

When patient eventually arrives in ARI in the New Year to see surgeon they have no option left but to amputate leg above knee.

 

Very interesting that same specialist said to patient at the last check-up:

"If you develop any symptoms in your other foot, call my secretary immediately. Come and see me directly, you will be admitted to ARI without delay. Don't bother to go to your local hospital."



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Posted 21 January 2014 - 07:10 PM


 

Very interesting that same specialist said to patient at the last check-up:

"If you develop any symptoms in your other foot, call my secretary immediately. Come and see me directly, you will be admitted to ARI without delay. Don't bother to go to your local hospital."

This practice is not new, while I was under a consultant for the possibility of skin cancer, I had the same order, and did go back to see him, I also had another adnormal growth removed not so long ago, and that was the same, no doctor just straight in, a different PCT as well.



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Posted 22 January 2014 - 04:36 AM

Ghost has already remarked on this quote below, however a couple of more observations.

 

paulb.

the cleaning of gbh is purely down to staffing numbers. the trouble you had is mainly down to that GBH is a small hospital its not possible to have the patient mix on a small ward that happens up here were compromises are not made. the chap shouting out would at a guess either had dementia or was coming down off something. its not legal to medicate a noisy patient if there condition does not warrant it. often the staff would love to stay with a distressed patient however there are only 3 staff members on at night priorities have to be set. remember the wards cater for every condition going and the full age range. do the staff ignore a dying patient/ seriously sick one to sit with a disturbed one. thats what the staff cuts have resulted in. i know for a fact that the staff on both wards are dedicated and caring. those that are not do not last long on the wards. SERIOUSLY THE NURSES DO CARE.

1.the cleaning of gbh is purely down to staffing numbers. (The non cleaning of GBH is highly dangerous and life threatening, Nurse Nightingale sorted that out).

2.the trouble you had is mainly down to that GBH is a small hospital its not possible to have the patient mix on a small ward that happens up here were compromises are not made. the chap shouting out would at a guess either had dementia or was coming down off something. its not legal to medicate a noisy patient if there condition does not warrant it. ( So it is obvious that the man was disturbed but his condition did not warrant sedation then maybe the other 30 patients should have been sedated. Note also that I said that, I finally found a nurse as she was going back into the coffee room at the back, there was not enough room for the other 30 patients. As for sedating the noisy patient a call to his relatives could have sorted that out.)

i know for a fact that the staff on both wards are dedicated and caring. those that are not do not last long on the wards.

SERIOUSLY THE NURSES DO CARE. (Then why are we having this discussion, am I and others that have had bad experiences, just making up these stories? Some of these incidents are verging on being criminal acts complete with accomplices, who take part by condoning these acts.)

Regards,

Rex.



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 12:45 AM

Update to yesterdays surgeons appointment.

My appointment was for 1110hrs.

I was told that the clinic was running a little late, which was fine, these things happen amd they kept me updated on what was going on. This, the outpatient department has always been ultra efficient in my view, friendly, to the point and they smile.

The appointment was a half hour late which as I have said was ok.

I wasn't seen by the surgeon but by a resident hospital doctor. I was given a thorough questioning about my symptoms, they were the same as they had been on previous times. I was also examined by belly pressing, coughing and rectal probing. Part the way through these questions, I became fuzzy and I am sure part of the time I was incoherent. I remember apologising to the doctor many times and saying that I was normally a logical person but did not know what was happening to me. I was extremely upset but I don't know why.

Even now I remember very little about the rest of the session. I was told two things that were going to happen in the future, one was that I was going to have a CT scan of my digestive system the other I cannot remember.

The above episode could have been because of a lack of sleep, a lack of food, frustration or I am losing the plot .

I got home and fell straight asleep until 1800ish. Which meant that my best pal, my dog was an hour late for his food,

Regards,

Rex.



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:00 AM

at least things are happening. lack of sleep can have a big effect on you. guessing stress won't have helped either.



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 02:40 PM

at least things are happening.

 

They are?  He can't lumpsooker eat, he can't pee, he can't crap - things might be happening, but they sure as hell aren't happening for Bresail!  Quite incredible that he's still with us.  Being starved and dehydrated can have an effect too.

 

Bresail, any chance someone can accompany you to your next visit?  Hell, I'll even volunteer.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 02:58 PM

It all sounds utterly miserable.  I, too agree, take someone with you.  

 

PS, I hope your dog forgave you! x



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 04:09 PM

Whoa whoa, my peeing is much better, I am taking in more fluids. Crapping is still a problem though. Yesterday I managed two slices of toast amd a bowl of cornflakes, Stomach pains are still in the background. Why does that sentence seem so strange?

I slept from approx 0200hrs for approx 3 hrs and I fell asleep again. I awoke about an hour ago at 1430hrs that was a long time for me. I had to break off this writing just now, while I gave birth to a small poo.

I am a romantic at heart!

I do not look ill, I am still upright, strong and healthy looking.

I am also making sure that I do not deteriorate too far.

My Tuesday blank day was noted by the doctor and some of it is coming back to me.

Now this next bit is not to do with illness.

For some time my keyboard lettering has been disappearing and I thought that this could improve my typing speed. It doesn't, I spen much more time correcting afterwards. I amgoing to try to wruitr somethinc without full congentratiuon. whree will that tyake me?

Will change my keyboard later.

Regards,

Rex.



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Posted 23 January 2014 - 04:25 PM

was only trying to be supportive with the last post. hope the scan show rge problem and it can be sorted. have you tried soups ect



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Posted 25 January 2014 - 04:22 PM

Paul, I did recognise the fact that you were being supportive and I thank you and the others who are helping me.

Since yesterday I am managing to get some soup inside of me, it does hurt my stomach though, it feels as though something is raw in the hidden depths.

Thursday I received from the, "Patient Focussed Booking Clerk," a letter telling me I would be receiving a  'phone call on the 30th of Jan at 1155 am for a pre-op assessment.

Today Sat 25th I received a letter from the," Medical Imaging Department," saying that I will be having a CT scan on the 12th of Feb. I must remember to check first thing Monday morning about interactions between my warfarin and iodine!

Regards,

Rex.



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 02:49 AM

I am now going to, maybe, make an idiot of myself.

So be it.

Some of the other problems that I have and that I thought were just age related, I have to accept. Advancing age brings joints that decide to act in ridiculous ways or just decide to seize up temporarily.

So what I have just done is list my latest symptoms from the date of my last appointment with my vagueness etc. So here is a shortened list.

1.Vagueness. I remembered that it had happened a couple of times before. The worst being when I found myself in Lerwick and I didn't know why or how I got there. In my head I knew that I had to go to the hospital. So without knowing why. I went to A&E. Whilst there I do not remember what I said and I fell asleep. I awoke sometime later with a nurse holding my hand and I was sobbing like a child. The nurse asked me why I was crying and I said that I didn't know why. I became more lucid and became very embarrassed. This episode was put down another minor TIA.

I do believe that I may have other times of vagueness a couple of times when I've had a witness.

I went to see a doctor thinking I had the beginnings of dementia and he decided that he was worse than me, We both laughed at this

2. Constant tiredness. I fall asleep within 20 minutes of eating. I've even been known to wake up with my head in a plate.

3. Feeling cold, when my home is warm.

4. Depression. I have been taking sertraline for a number of years now.

5. Skin problems. I am using Nizoral for flaking scalp, Fucidin for a facial skin problem. These are

doctor prescribed. I do not need to shave as much as I used to.

6. My nails are easily broken and distorted. So much so that the doctor noticed them last Tuesday and asked me some questions about them. When I asked why that was so interesting the doctor said it was just something very vague and not to worry about it.

These can be added on to my original problems of this post.

Would anyone like to diagnose me?

Sorry about the length of this post, but it is important for me get this out in the open, with a permanent record.

***nb

Regards,

Rex.



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 11:09 AM

get your thyroid checked.full blood work up. that's not a normal aging symptoms.


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 01:02 PM

All I can say is I wish I was nearer.  I would give you a huge hug xx



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 01:28 PM

All I can say is I wish I was nearer.  I would give you a huge hug xx

 

Squeeze the shiite out of him ?

:ponders:

 

Apologies in advance


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 01:32 PM

Is there anybody (family/ friend/ neighbour) who could accompany you at your next appointment?

 

Write all these symptoms down and take a list along. One copy for yourself and a copy for the Doctor/ file.

 

Maybe ask the Doc if any of your symptoms could be side effects to drugs you are taking? Or have you had a jab recently?

I ask because that's what happened to my husband over the last few years....he remembers you Rex, he was in the GBH bed next to you just over a year ago. Name is Allan.



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 04:30 PM

Advocacy Shetland may be able to help

 

http://www.advocacy-shetland.org/#