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Car tax disc to be axed after 93 years

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#16 Colin

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Posted 27 September 2014 - 07:24 AM

 

Now, you have to tax it immediately because the outstanding VED is not transferred with ownership.

 

Not exactly, that's kinda what Big Brother wants you to think, but there's leeway to do things a little differently, if you want to. Here definitely isn't the place to get in to it any deeper though. ;-)

 

I'm curious.  Why not?



#17 shetlandpeat

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Posted 28 September 2014 - 10:19 AM

he misses the point yet again. Very few folk, in the past, would have applied to get their road tax refunded when they sold their car and therefore the tax was only paid once. The new system means that the DVLA will now in a lot of cases be paid twice for the same vehicle being road taxed.

Therefore what has happened in the past has been changed and this seems an unfair new system. Best solution is to refund the full unused tax. Simples and fair.

There are many vehicles sold without tax, I for one never passed on a vehicle with a current disk. If I were, I would add the cost, if any (many cars are not subject to duty but we still have to pay as a collective to produce the disk) to the sale price. In a way, this can help those buying, they may not want to pay for 12 months duty if they can get 6 at their own lesure. This system also ensures that the new owner has insurance to drive the vehicle, or arange delivery. For instance, these few you mention must include the owners of the 7,052,078 vehicles scrapped from 2006 - 2011, about a million a year. There are some advantages, there will of course be a few problems, while you whine about the cost to yourself, it is estimated that up to £160,000,000 worth of duty can be avoided, at a cost to us all. That should be the real issue, not the few pounds lost by the odd individual or the mass conspiracy of the DVLA making money on bad planning.


Edited by shetlandpeat, 28 September 2014 - 10:21 AM.


#18 MuckleJoannie

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Posted 28 September 2014 - 11:11 AM

I've never bought or sold a car through a private deal where the road tax has been surrendered. But that's maybe because they've been kept on or next a public road so you had to keep them taxed or risk a fine.



#19 peter.l

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 11:43 PM

How about if on buying the car (delivered by the seller) the buyer fills in that nonsense SCORN form. In theory the buyer should get his tax back and the new owner starts with a clean slate?

 

Incidentally, this happend to me in Edinburgh, I forgot to tax the car despite the reminder. In addition to a parking ticket I was penalised for "Failing to display a valid tax disc"  OK but since a tax disc didn't exist I couldn't very well display one.

A week later they confirm it was impossible to display a valid tax disc and promptly slammed me again because it didn't exist.

-----One or the other Mr Prime Minister, not both. It's dishonest------

 

It's all a moneygrabbing exercise anyway. 



#20 Scorrie

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 06:31 AM

How about if on buying the car (delivered by the seller) the buyer fills in that nonsense SCORN form. In theory the buyer should get his tax back and the new owner starts with a clean slate?

 

Incidentally, this happend to me in Edinburgh, I forgot to tax the car despite the reminder. In addition to a parking ticket I was penalised for "Failing to display a valid tax disc"  OK but since a tax disc didn't exist I couldn't very well display one.

A week later they confirm it was impossible to display a valid tax disc and promptly slammed me again because it didn't exist.

-----One or the other Mr Prime Minister, not both. It's dishonest------

 

It's all a moneygrabbing exercise anyway. 

 

It is a very easy moneygrabbing exercise if you don't tax your car and then drive round in it.

 

:thmbsup



#21 peter.l

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 10:39 AM

It was more than my police job was worth to fiddle car tax. Blatent offences are one thing. Two fines for one oversight, one of which was impossible to comply with is grossly unfair in my book. Now they are likely to steal your car, sell it for scrap and keep the proceeds. That's likely to cause a lot of unrest if a motorist is fined then loses his £5,000 car, and the next guy loses his £500 banger for the same offence.  Where's the justice?



#22 Scorrie

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 08:13 PM

Pay your car tax when it is due and there's not a problem.

 

Works for most people.


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