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#1 Redrobbie99

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Posted 27 January 2016 - 08:56 AM

At the forthcoming EU referendum should Shetland vote to stay in the EU or leave ?



#2 George.

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Posted 27 January 2016 - 10:06 AM

Leave. Look what they've done to Shetlands fishing industry - with no good reason.


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#3 Gorgonzola Butt-cheese

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Posted 30 January 2016 - 04:13 PM

Leave without a doubt , you should attach a poll to the thread Redrobbie.....



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Posted 30 January 2016 - 10:42 PM

Norway has consistently voted to stay out of the EU but they still have to follow the EU rules. They have all of the disadvantages and few advantages,



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Posted 31 January 2016 - 04:20 AM

What a LOAD OF CRAP - Muckle Joannie ! Who are you ? Jonathon Will's ?

How prosperous is their fisheries compared to the Uk as a whole ?

Back up your sweeping statements with real facts why dont you !!


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#6 Ghostrider

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Posted 31 January 2016 - 06:30 AM

Get out, we never voted to go in. All the EU has succeeded in doing is allowed Germany to achieve by stealth through the back door, what it couldn't achieve by brute force half a century earlier - a united motherland with a buffer zone of satellite nations protecting it on all sides, propping it up and doing its bidding.


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#7 Wheelsup

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Posted 31 January 2016 - 09:27 AM

While Scotland has such a pro-EU government we are unlikely to get out.



#8 Colin

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Posted 31 January 2016 - 09:59 AM

Norway has consistently voted to stay out of the EU but they still have to follow the EU rules. They have all of the disadvantages and few advantages,

 

Yes, they have the advantage of being able to make up their own rules/laws and, ultimately, do whatever is in their own best interests.

 

They also control their own currency, borders, immigration policies and natural resources etc.

 

It's called "sovereignty".

 

The only EU "rules" that they have to follow are those that directly affect the goods and services in their trading relationships.

 

I'm at a loss to try and figure out just what the real "advantages" are..


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Posted 31 January 2016 - 03:27 PM

Without European funding who will fund the tunnels to the islands?


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#10 Wheelsup

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Posted 31 January 2016 - 05:13 PM

The only advantage is being able to sell your fish, oil, timber, rock etc to the rest of Europe without having their  goods taxed on entry into the EU  until they can't compete with EU states



#11 Redrobbie99

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Posted 31 January 2016 - 05:23 PM

Because of EU imposed sanctions on the Russian federation Shetland catch posted losses for last year .http://www.shetnews....atch-posts-loss



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Posted 31 January 2016 - 05:25 PM






Norway has consistently voted to stay out of the EU but they still have to follow the EU rules. They have all of the disadvantages and few advantages,

 
Yes, they have the advantage of being able to make up their own rules/laws and, ultimately, do whatever is in their own best interests.
 
They also control their own currency, borders, immigration policies and natural resources etc.
 
It's called "sovereignty".
 
The only EU "rules" that they have to follow are those that directly affect the goods and services in their trading relationships.
 
I'm at a loss to try and figure out just what the real "advantages" are..
HERE is what former Norweigan foreign minister Espen Barth Eide has to say about Norways situation with the EU, this quote from his article caught my eye.
"As an EEA member, we do not participate in decision-making in Brussels, but we loyally abide by Brussels’ decisions. We have incorporated approximately three-quarters of all EU legislative acts into Norwegian legislation – and counting."

#13 Wheelsup

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Posted 31 January 2016 - 05:38 PM

Its probable than a non-EU UK or Scotland or Shetland might have also decided to impose sanctions against Russia for invading another country. iF we left the EU countries like Spain might not take our shellfish etc as they might attract high import taxes.



#14 Redrobbie99

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Posted 31 January 2016 - 06:36 PM

I do not understand the SNP's loyalty to the EU when the EU did everything in their power to ruin the independence referendum for the SNP .  http://www.dailymail...nd-join-EU.html



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Posted 31 January 2016 - 06:45 PM

Without European funding who will fund the tunnels to the islands?

 

I'm not seeing Europe rushing in with their cheque to pay for them either, despite the idea of tunnels having been grumbled about for many years.

 

Meanwhile, Norway appears to have a pretty healthy ongoing tunnel/bridge program without European money.


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#16 George.

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Posted 31 January 2016 - 07:22 PM

 

Without European funding who will fund the tunnels to the islands?

 

I'm not seeing Europe rushing in with their cheque to pay for them either, despite the idea of tunnels having been grumbled about for many years.

 

Meanwhile, Norway appears to have a pretty healthy ongoing tunnel/bridge program without European money.

 

 

Yet more reasons to jump off the EU gravy train. After all, it's only a gravy train for the control merchants that run it, unelected I believe.


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#17 magnie ii

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Posted 31 January 2016 - 07:41 PM

Without European funding who will fund the tunnels to the islands?

give them £100 so they can give back £10 in grants why not keep the money in the uk and just build tunnels and lots more with it


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#18 Urabug

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Posted 31 January 2016 - 08:53 PM

Yes magnie ii,apparently since 1979 we have contributed £228Billion,and we have received £143 Billion back so the question is where has the other £85 Billion gone. :ponders:  


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#19 Da Burra Shop

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Posted 31 January 2016 - 08:56 PM

Its probable than a non-EU UK or Scotland or Shetland might have also decided to impose sanctions against Russia for invading another country. iF we left the EU countries like Spain might not take our shellfish etc as they might attract high import taxes.

I can't see the French or Spanish housewife going without fish, or accepting a high tax on it. So no real worries there. The Faroes who are of a similar disposition to us looked at the facts and decided to carry on selling their produce to Russia, there is also a fair chance an independent Shetland would of decided the same.


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#20 George.

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Posted 31 January 2016 - 10:54 PM

Yes magnie ii,apparently since 1979 we have contributed £228Billion,and we have received £143 Billion back so the question is where has the other £85 Billion gone. :ponders:  

 

Just possibly into the back pockets of the control merchants that run the EU. They get massive salaries that are totally unjustified. When we leave we will be so much better off it's unbelievable  :rofl:


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