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Tory Brexit white paper, are they selling out our fisheries (again)?


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#31 Da Burra Shop

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Posted 15 April 2017 - 02:29 PM

^^^
"Will BREXIT change that ? NO"
Brexit changes everything, a small example is the 13% to 20% import tariff the EU charges Norway on processed salmon which effectively means all Norweigen salmon processing has been moved to Poland to avoid tariffs.
What will happen to our fish farming industry?

More like it has moved to Poland because the Norwegians don't want it in their fjords anymore.



#32 Ironwithin

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Posted 15 April 2017 - 05:33 PM

^^^
"Will BREXIT change that ? NO"
Brexit changes everything, a small example is the 13% to 20% import tariff the EU charges Norway on processed salmon which effectively means all Norweigen salmon processing has been moved to Poland to avoid tariffs.
What will happen to our fish farming industry?


The USA is Scotlands main country that salmon is exported to and also China is getting increasingly important, so as we can get free trade deals with both that should boost exports to both. Also even with tariffs buyers in the EU will still buy Scottish salmon as it's a premium product. So Brexit should in the long term be a boost to the industry.

#33 Urabug

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Posted 15 April 2017 - 07:41 PM

Will BREXIT change that ?  NO-- I'm talking about the sale of property and businesses ,also the employment of personnel to outsiders showing little or no allegiance to the local community.
 
Yes BREXIT will have an impact ,we will,as has been stated ,have to pay import and export taxes but that also has plus and minuses.
 
If we have first class quality products for sale at affordable prices I'm sure they will sell, Why would they not in or out of the EU.
 
We will of course have to compete with other country's and that is where we have to be competitive on quality and price. That will not be easy on UK wages and working conditions.


#34 Capeesh

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 10:50 AM






^^^
"Will BREXIT change that ? NO"
Brexit changes everything, a small example is the 13% to 20% import tariff the EU charges Norway on processed salmon which effectively means all Norweigen salmon processing has been moved to Poland to avoid tariffs.
What will happen to our fish farming industry?

The USA is Scotlands main country that salmon is exported to and also China is getting increasingly important, so as we can get free trade deals with both that should boost exports to both. Also even with tariffs buyers in the EU will still buy Scottish salmon as it's a premium product. So Brexit should in the long term be a boost to the industry.
Outside the UK the EU is by a huge margin the largest destination for our salmon exports according to this from the Scottish Salmon Producers Organisation.
They make it abundantly clear what their opinion is if we lose the unfettered, tariff free access we've enjoyed as members of the EU.
http://scottishsalmo...ement-final.pdf

#35 menkeeeaneahi

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 10:58 AM

never mind in six weeks therell maybe be a whole new lot in london to rewrite it all



#36 Urabug

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Posted 18 April 2017 - 11:59 AM

Will there be a General election in Scotland ? --wir peerie Nicola does not usually lik tae obey the Westminister rules so ma'be dey will hae to be a supreme court hearing afore she allows wiz tae vote  :evil: .


Edited by Urabug, 18 April 2017 - 12:00 PM.


#37 Urabug

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Posted 19 March 2018 - 08:36 PM

Tory Brexit white paper, are they selling out our fisheries (again)?

 

Yes! without any doubt now.



#38 Capeesh

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Posted 19 March 2018 - 09:22 PM

Today the Tory government in London completely capitulated yet again in Brexit negotiations, they've given up the right to take back control of UK waters and decided to let the EU set fishing quotas during the transition period after Brexit.

In the words of Bertie Armstrong the Scottish Fishermen's Federation chairman...
“...This falls far short of an acceptable deal. We will leave the EU and leave the CFP, but hand back sovereignty over our seas a few seconds later..."

It's becoming blindingly obvious what is and isn't a priority in these negotiations, Theresa May and her Tory cohorts are doing what Heath and his lot did in the 70's, they're looking at our rich fishing grounds as nothing more than a handy bargaining chip and treating our fishing communities as expendable.

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Posted 20 March 2018 - 07:48 AM

For all that this is a terrible deal and many are rightly outraged, including a lot of Brexiteer politicians, all is not yet lost. Whilst it is worryingly clear that fisheries is not a priority for those at the top negotiating the deal there is still potential for the right outcome in 2020.

The UK will have the same limited influence it does now for the setting of the 18/19 quotas so will suffer 1 year of having no real say and only being "consulted", 19/20. 

We will then leave the Common Fisheries Policy properly and have control of our own waters - the key issue then is ensuring the hated policy is not simply replaced with a similar access agreement. 

It is also a great concern how the EU fleet will behave during this "transition". They aren't exactly considerate of stocks now, god knows what they will be like if they think they may be getting shafted in a few years. 

Overall not a pretty picture and certainly not what the industry voted for or was promised. 

Times like these really make me wish Shetland had control of her own waters and was clear of all this nonsense horse trading by politicians who do not give two craps about us.


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#40 brian.smith

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Posted 21 March 2018 - 05:42 PM

For all that this is a terrible deal and many are rightly outraged, including a lot of Brexiteer politicians, all is not yet lost. Whilst it is worryingly clear that fisheries is not a priority for those at the top negotiating the deal there is still potential for the right outcome in 2020.
The UK will have the same limited influence it does now for the setting of the 18/19 quotas so will suffer 1 year of having no real say and only being "consulted", 19/20. 
We will then leave the Common Fisheries Policy properly and have control of our own waters - the key issue then is ensuring the hated policy is not simply replaced with a similar access agreement. 
It is also a great concern how the EU fleet will behave during this "transition". They aren't exactly considerate of stocks now, god knows what they will be like if they think they may be getting shafted in a few years. 
Overall not a pretty picture and certainly not what the industry voted for or was promised. 
Times like these really make me wish Shetland had control of her own waters and was clear of all this nonsense horse trading by politicians who do not give two craps about us.

it will be that is clear if you think they will protect fishing and not get a deal on financial services then you are deluded. Agriculture will be sacrificed as well to a certain extent when you look at the GDP on financial services then you can understand that’s why this country is completely knackered we have little in the way of high value manufacturing going on these days as they keep telling us we are supported by the London tax dodgers