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#201 Frances144

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 07:21 PM

A sad day.  Another shop bites the dust - The International Taste grocery shop in Commercial Street.



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Posted 04 November 2017 - 07:56 PM

There is an impressive new Asian/world food shop now open next to the Raba, I bought a load of noodles etc there the other day.


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Posted 04 November 2017 - 09:22 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the shop on the street run by the same folk who have the Staney Hill Shop, and they're just consilidating back to where they were previously and will be continuing selling the same products from teh Staney Hill.

 

Yes, its a 'sad' day when another street shop goes empty, but they're inevitable 'sad' days. Closures will exceed new start ups as the now 40+ year old terminal decline continues, as long as somebody is willing to put in the time and investment to set up and run a business and only get back barely a decent wage it'll hang in for a while, but the banks and Post Office will only stay in old high maintenance and expensive to heat difficult to access buldings until they become too big for their current needs as result of less and less physical work and material being generated by the steady drift to electronic alternatives,and the value of their real estate makes the only smart future, one of selling up and building a much smaller and much cheaper to maintain and run buidling elsewhere, and when they go, its game over.

 

The only business that is guaranteed to thrive on the street in the state its gotten to be in now, is one that supplies high demand product with no competition - whatever that product might be. And any such business would thrive equally well, probably better on countless other sites, so why would they choose to locate on the street anyway.

 

A significant proportion of the street buildings started life as private houses with one downstairs room given over to a shop, the best future for the owners of such buildings is to revert them back to dwellings, either for rent or sale, and the buildings designed to be shops, and those too heavily modified for shop use to be realistically reverted back to dwellings, might just find enough niche markets to survive as businesses, albeit they might only be seasonal in some cases.


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Posted 04 November 2017 - 09:57 PM

Well I would definitely buy more from the street if it reverted back to having more shops that sold your staple basic goods, food shops especially. The International food shop was interesting & I tried a couple of items from it but it was more of a "specialist" shop for particular tastes perhaps. To do a weeks shopping in "Don Leslie's" would be rather expensive & limiting. But if it were possible to have a mini market like the old Presto's/Templetons/Lipton's (I mind dem all!) as a non driver who strongly dislikes the supermarket experience, though I am on a limited budget I would certainly do a lot of my grocery shopping there. I realise though that it is unlikely to happen, shame.

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 10:29 PM

^ Its a fair point. You'd have thought a "corner shop" type grocery place might have done okay someplace around the street given the population catchment area. They seem unpredictable though, Sound Services, Alec Morrison's & Staney Hill seem to do okay, Lochside sormetimes, kinda sorta okay over the years, Brucefield and Bells Brae gone though, and Marnoch's only seemed to do so-so even back in the day. What made the difference among them?

 

There's little doubt Templeton/Presto/whoever contributed to the end of the last "proper" grocers on the street, R&C's and Jim Henry's, but with that 'supermarket' outlet gone, you never know. There's certainly a lot more folk living on and near the street now than back then, few shops were occupied in the upper floors above them, unlike the numerous flats of today, and some lanes that were down to one or two if not zero households back then have been redeveloped/refurbished now.



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Posted 04 November 2017 - 10:34 PM

There must be some real bargains to be had on Commercial Street?



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Posted 04 November 2017 - 10:46 PM

There must be some real bargains to be had on Commercial Street?

 

I dunno if any of them could be considered bargains, but you can usually get a pretty good offer or two on the street after closing time on a Friday or Saturday night. ;)



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Posted 05 November 2017 - 09:10 AM

Da foosty old blanket in da window of da stage door canna be much o a bargain, been there for ages. Wish someen would buy it and take it away!
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Posted 05 November 2017 - 10:27 AM

There is an impressive new Asian/world food shop now open next to the Raba, I bought a load of noodles etc there the other day.

I visit on my once-a-week trip into town and try to buy one new thing to cook with - experiment.

So far, we've had a superb peanutty curry and a few other creations.

 

My daughter walked in and said in awe "a wall of noodles" (Homer Simpson-esque).  I was hugely impressed to see they catered for gluten-free too.



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 07:25 PM

The Shetland Larder, or whatever it is called is a bit of an oddity.  I have only ever seen the staff in there - no customers.  I wondered what they sold, as to me it wasn't obvious from the outside, so I went in and bought a crepe served in a cardboard "crepe holder".  I really enjoyed it (banana and honey).  I also got a bottle of fizzy pop, expensive designer stuff, but again, fine enough.



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 10:16 PM

I have seen customers in there but admittedly not many. I did go in to buy one of their homemade icecreams one fine day very soon after they first opened, can't mind what flavour. I wasn't overly impressed with it & wished I had got from Conochies instead. I may give them another shot though as they did say at the time that they were still refining their recipe. I would give their service credit for being friendly though. The crepe sounds tasty too. I admire anyone that tries to make a go out of a business on the street but it seems that mostly they pick specialist types of shops or eaterys. The problem I see with that is to sustain the cafés & takeaways you need enough shops (& variety of them) in the area to attract customers in the first place. I don't think most people are going to go to the street just to eat. Also although I do like & very occasionally use some of the more specialist shops, I think to get enough people shopping in the street it needs more shops selling what I would term as general wares. Ideally I would want more clothing & footwear & household goods as well as groceries (that I have mentioned in a previous post) being sold. These are the sorts of items that it is not always convenient to buy online because for instance with clothing & shoes sizing & fit can vary even within a brand so it is easier if you can try on the item before purchasing.
I don't think that it is inevitable that online shopping will kill off the presence of physical shops as in the past the shops had a certain amount of competition from the mail-order catalogues which were certainly in abundance in Shetland, but they still survived. We also have an issue with far too many companies & individuals on the internet who will either not send to Shetland, make exorbitant carriage charges or just make the whole process of getting delivery so complicated & therefore off putting. If there is an issue with a purchase it is also usually easier & quicker to deal with when it has been bought locally. I have noticed an almost automatic assumption that an item will always cost more here but I like to check this for myself as occasionally I have been surprised & I take into account additional delivery costs & convenience for myself. I would like to see some improvement in customer service as though there is good service, there is room for improvement. A little more helpfulness & good manners would be nice but the need for good manners cuts both ways. I have worked in a few shops in or near the street over the years & I have definately seen a decline in politeness from the customer. Not all of course but enough to be notable. I was brought up with the advise that good manners cost nothing so even the poorest can afford them.
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 08:06 AM

The coffee from the Shetland larder is pretty good. That is according to the Mrs and she knows her coffee.



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Posted 17 November 2017 - 12:11 AM

Not a coffee drinker myself but will definitely give the crêpes a try soon.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 12:01 PM

Island Larder, not Shetland Larder.  I went past this morning and they were busy!


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 10:07 PM

I see there is another two shops moving from da street next month. Wish folk would try something in the empty shops, doesn't matter what, just something so the shops are not standing empty.



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Posted 27 January 2018 - 12:09 AM

Who's going now?

 

A lot of folk have tried a very many things on the street in the last 40 years, only a very small number have made the distance. Its getting close to the point these days that there's not a lot left to try that hasn't been tried, and failed previously.



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Posted 27 January 2018 - 08:54 AM

2 many shops start granting permission to turn shops into accommodation plenty of people looking for housing the internet and supermarkets have cut the need for high streets all over the uk no point in holding onto yesterday


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Posted 27 January 2018 - 09:37 AM

I have a dream......

 

"Shetland Pony World" - a shop for all things Shetland pony!



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Posted 27 January 2018 - 09:54 AM

I have a dream......

 

"Shetland Pony World" - a shop for all things Shetland pony!

 

Pony World Shetland Pony Set
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Posted 27 January 2018 - 11:24 AM

2 many shops start granting permission to turn shops into accommodation plenty of people looking for housing the internet and supermarkets have cut the need for high streets all over the uk no point in holding onto yesterday

 

Something of a natural evolution had begun on the street as much as 40 years ago, with shops being converted in to offices, as they were in short supply back then.....until the Council decided to effectively ban it.

 

I can understand why they thought it a good idea, but with hindsight it probably was ill-advised, as while an office didn't generate the footfall of a shop, most do generate some, whereas an empty building generates none,

 

Offices these days are going begging and accomodation is the thing, so it would be smart if this time round they did heed market demand and let anyone wanting to convert a street shop to accomodation to get on with it. If nothing else a few more folk staying on the street can only help remaining businesses be a little more viable.