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#16 Scorrie

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Posted 30 May 2018 - 04:15 AM

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#17 Ghostrider

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Posted 30 May 2018 - 09:43 AM

He's not been 'stitched up' at all.

 

He knew what he was doing.

 

I'm not going to argue with that. However the statute(s) concerned, and especially the interpretation of them by the powers that be fall well short of giving you the warm and fuzzies about it all.

 

He maybe had it coming, and he maybe deserves it, but you need to take him out with a slam dunk, not something contrived, opportunistic and somewhat staged as this comes across as.

 

If you choose to turn a blind eye towards anything that appears less than 100% squeaky clean because 'the means justifies the end', which appears to be the attitude of some on this, you've started out down that slippery slope.


Edited by Ghostrider, 30 May 2018 - 09:47 AM.


#18 Wheelsup

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Posted 30 May 2018 - 10:39 AM

It’s a difficult situation. You think you’re the defender of free speech , yet your then in danger of supporting the nazis. In this case I am happy leave it to the courts.

#19 redrobbie

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Posted 30 May 2018 - 11:02 AM

What was it exactly that he said that got him sent to jail .Was it because he read out the names and charges of the defendants  ? This information was published by both the Huddersfield examiner and the BBC on their web page . Are they going to jail ?http://www.bbc.co.uk...ngland-39580591



#20 Suffererof1crankymofo

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Posted 30 May 2018 - 11:32 AM

This is codswallop.  Reporting restrictions normally mean you don't name the victims but can name the defendants.  In addition, trials are frequently heard around the UK at the same time.  Are you seriously insinuating that our justice system is so flaky that it can cope with simultaneous arrests but can't cope with defendants being filmed going into court?  That's the real crime here, the total cover up, let's have our head in the sand approach.

 

It's fine for other defendants to be filmed with a blanket over their heads entering court.  It's been fine to have blow by blow accounts of what's been going down in the Old Bailey on other rape cases too.  There's been numerous occasions when this has been done.

I also saw on Facebook a group of Sikhs who were quietly sitting in the public gallery of one of the courts, the one making the Facebook video appearing to be a rather 'mature, elderly' gentleman.  They had attended a particular Trial for more than one day.  But if my memory serves me correctly, on the last day they were asked to leave because the defendant felt intimidated and upset by their presence.  Well, if found guilty (not sure of the result) then I'm pretty sure that their VICTIMS felt rather intimidated and upset by their actions.  Since when has standing in the dock been a comfortable experience?

This is not about Tommy Robinson.  This is about the systematic failure to recognise the collosal scale of the travesties affecting young girls and women throughout the UK.  Do we seriously want to live in a land whereby people are ejected from court for doing nothing wrong simply because of the colour of their skin and their religion?

 



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Posted 30 May 2018 - 12:28 PM

This discussion is exactly about Tommy Robinson.

It looks like he is using this court case to raise publicity for his own cause, not for the good of the victims.


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Posted 30 May 2018 - 12:39 PM

Censoring Sinn Fein didn't work (you would have thought Big Brother would have learnt their lesson from that) so why they think press reporting on a trial and gagging the media is going to work beats me; it's like taking a sledgehammer to a hazelnut because it doesn't work.  It doesn't matter what anyone's opinions are on Tommy but to me, the whole thing stinks.  He wasn't inciting racism.  He wasn't interfering with a court case; hell, the jury had already been selected.

 

The Defendants were effing and blinding at him, stating what they were gonna do to his mum - were they charged too with a public order offence or are they above the law?  Complaints can be made to the relevant police authority if you have any faith in the system, that is.

 

Just because the jury was selected doesn't mean certain media personalities (I use the term grudgingly as the swear filter won't let me outline my true feelings on Tommy Robinson) can't influence an outcome with aggressive "reporting".



#23 Suffererof1crankymofo

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Posted 30 May 2018 - 02:38 PM

 

 

Just because the jury was selected doesn't mean certain media personalities (I use the term grudgingly as the swear filter won't let me outline my true feelings on Tommy Robinson) can't influence an outcome with aggressive "reporting".

 

I agree with you re Tommy Robinson.  I disagree with you regarding aggressive reporting.  For starters, it was hardly aggressive.  Secondly, if any juror is influenced by anything in the media or, for that matter, what comes out of Tommy Robinson's gob, then they shouldn't be on the jury.  Judges instruct jurors to ignore anything they've read/seen in the media and instead to concentrate on what they hear/read within the courtroom.



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Posted 30 May 2018 - 05:56 PM

It should be noted that Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, now known as Tommy Robinson, was convicted of no more than broadcasting on social media and of contemt of court. The BBC, for what they're worth, tell us that. It would appear that he has nothing more than a different opinion to the common man. We are almost all guilty of that.



#25 Scorrie

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Posted 30 May 2018 - 06:52 PM

 

Again.


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#26 Ghostrider

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Posted 30 May 2018 - 08:21 PM

^ Yeah, I've read it, it doesn't exactly tell folk much about Robinson's adventures that wasn't already known, not that that matters, he was the architect of his own fate, even if the man kinda trumped it all up a bit. Its a bit thin in places, but it does more to portray our Court/justice/legal system/laws in an even more concerning/dubious light than we knew they were already.


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#27 KOYAANISQATSI

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Posted 30 May 2018 - 08:44 PM

Labour MP Naz Shah retweeted and "liked" a post on Twitter that said: "Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity."



#28 KOYAANISQATSI

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Posted 30 May 2018 - 08:56 PM

All mainstream party politicians are bound by PC guidelines and terrified of speaking out against the far left narrative that now rules our establishments.
The courts, media, police, regressive leftists and the uninformed television viewers, simply follow suit.
A sorry state of affairs indeed.

Tommy Robinson is neither far right or racist but this is their only weapon against him... slander, lies and manipulation of our laws, in order to silence him and many others now waking up and speaking out on the facts about "the religion of peace"


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#29 KOYAANISQATSI

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Posted 30 May 2018 - 08:58 PM

It's good to talk



#30 rgibson

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Posted 31 May 2018 - 12:09 AM

https://youtu.be/O7P7ih1GuuQ

Whatever happened or happens. This Times Journalist Andrew Norfolk opened my eyes to the disgusting situation the system had/has allowed to transpire. Fear of pursuing Pakistani/Muslim grooming gangs because it might be construed as racist!?

Arresting a half naked 13yr old girl for being drunk in a room of Asian men... And charging her!for being drunk and disorderly....for fear of being racist.

Tommys cousin was a victim to one of these gangs and I fully understand his motivation in making sure the push continues in the prosecutions and the public is informed.
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