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How can you get an aerosol up here?


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#1 fina

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 06:34 PM

I have been trying to buy a tin of WD40 White Lithium lubricating oil online,

but neither Royal Mail nor Couriers are permitted to carry aerosols to

"offshore locations".

 

I haven't been in a shop up here for a few years { housebound disabled} so I don't know if

shops here are able to get in and sell any aerosols, like deodorant or furniture polish?

 

Are people allowed to carry aerosols in their luggage on the boat?

 

 

...is there a black market aerosol-smuggling ring that I could try and contact??

 

 

{It's Mogling - having to log in under an old forgotten account because of a disabled old email address}


Edited by fina, 19 April 2019 - 06:36 PM.

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#2 Gandhi

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 08:16 PM

We have spray white lithium grease by 3 in 1 and Valvoline. Happy to drop off a can if any benefit.

#3 Rasmie

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 07:25 PM

The permitted dangerous goods may only be carried when for personal use. Please note that current UK aviation security regulations forbid the carriage of liquids (including aerosols and gels) in hand baggage through the passenger security point in containers larger than 100ml.
Items that are allowed in baggage | UK Civil Aviation Authority
 
Items Carry-on Baggage Checked (hold) Baggage On One's Person Airline approval required

Aerosols containing non-flammable, non-toxic gas with no subsidiary risk (such as nitrogen or carbon dioxide), for sporting or home use

The total net quantity of each single article must not exceed 0.5 kg or 0.5 L.

The total net quantity of medicines, toiletry articles and aerosols for sporting or home use must not exceed 2 kg or 2 L (e.g. four aerosol cans of 500 mL each) each.

Release valves on aerosols must be protected by a cap or other suitable means to prevent inadvertent release of the contents.

No Yes

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#4 brochbuilder

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Posted 23 April 2019 - 10:37 PM

There is an aerosol up here, he has been vandalising cars in Lerwick.


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#5 fina

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 09:00 PM

Gandhi- sorry for not replying sooner,

thank you very much - was looking to see how to send

a private message but can't figure out if that's possible,

how to contact you?

 

 

Thanks for that Rasmie.

 

One shop owner I phoned explained that they can have

aerosols brought up, 'palletised'.

 

Fair enough, for safety reasons, not taking pressurised aerosols

on an aircraft, but, one tin, securely wrapped, in a metal

shipping container on a freight boat, canna be much more of a danger than

if it was being transported by rail, or by road?


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#6 Ghostrider

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Posted 28 April 2019 - 09:38 PM

^ The company doing the shipping needs to be licensed to carry 'hazardous substances' or something like that, even on the boat, which puts off a lot of the Courier companies from bothering. They seem to think the cost/hassle of getting licensed outweighs what they're losing in business by refusing to carry stuff that qualifies.



#7 Colin

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 05:46 AM

Whatever way you look at it, it's pathetic.



#8 George.

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Posted 29 April 2019 - 07:12 AM

Is it not possible to go down to the Malakoff or H.N.P and get a can of it there?



#9 Rasmie

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 07:28 AM

The UN regulations are designed to make sure that goods carried are properly packaged and don't provide danger to ships,aircraft and surface transport.  A fire on a ship can be pretty catastrophic too. These regulations have evolved over years , often following incidents.

Otherwise all sorts of idiots would ship all sorts of stuff. However exceptions have been made for the travelling public to carry Limited Amounts of some Dangerous goods, such as aerosols and small pressurized oxygen cylinders for medical use.



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Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:34 AM

^ The intent of the regulations is maybe fine and well, but in practice they're not really doing all that much good, as they're effectively unenforcable. They rely on folk sending stuff actually knowing they exist, and voluntarily complying with them.

 

Okay, it probably works quite well for larger consignments of 'restricted' items being transported, but where you have private individuals sending something to a mate as a present/favour, and the likes of ebay, Amazon etc, where many sellers are also private individuals, some of whom are wholly ignorant of the regs, and others who are very well aware of them, but ignore/circumvent them just to make the sale, there's still a goodish amount of 'restricted' product floating around transportation systems that's not supposed to be there.

 

Once packaged up, carriers have no way of knowing what's inside a package, and even if the person accepting it asks whats in it, a sender looking to ignore/circumvent the regs will simply lie, and where items are being dropped off in unmanned collection points, like letterboxes, there's not even that being done.



#11 Rasmie

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 03:18 PM

Couriers including the post office are legally obliged to satisfy themselves that the goods are not dangerous, by for instance questioning the consignors, or reporting suspicious packages. Nevertheless things do get through, and most of the time they will get away with it. If something does cause a problem then the sender will be held legally responsible.



#12 Gandhi

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 08:14 PM

Hi, I've left a message on your profile feed.

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 07:21 PM

Not just aerosols.  Just tried to by a battery for an old camera....  "does not ship to UK islands"..

 

Finally got one at Duracell Direct but, had to pay a "premium" price.

 

Benefits (?) of living on an island I suppose ?


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#14 Ghostrider

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 10:02 PM

^ You can't even send a Zippo in the mail that's been 'used', even if its perfectly dry of fuel. Only unused ones allowed.

 

While a lot of it does make sense, a lot of it, like a single battery, or a lighter that doesn't so much as have a smell of petrol left in it, is very OTT. Its not being helped by some retailers/carriers, presumably to save on admin/order checks (laziness?) simply putting everything remotely like what's on the 'banned' list on their 'no offshore shipping' list, whether its actually on the 'banned' list at all, or in the quantities they supply it in.

 

It is the 'joy' of living on an island. In a nation of 65 Million souls, the relevance and worth of the potential trade of 22/23,000 of them on a rock in the middle of nowhere, is too miniscule for most of the rest to give a stuff about.


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#15 Nigel Bridgman-Elliot

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 12:14 PM

I'm reminded of:

https://www.shetland...n-at-sullom-voe

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The second parcel, containing a 6lb bomb and a 12-day timing device, arrived after his departure and remained uncollected in the construction village post office until, absurdly, it was forwarded to (but failed to reach) his address in Northern Ireland.”
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