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The future of Scottish Football ?


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#1 XAM7102

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Posted 06 May 2020 - 06:37 PM

With no fans for the forseeable future its tough times for the league's in Scotland.

 

Hopefully all the clubs survive and the league is reconstructed to a 14-10-10-10 or 14-14-16.

 

Its a perilous time for our nation's most popular sport.



#2 NullVoid

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Posted 06 May 2020 - 09:07 PM

You think that's bad?

English football has a song about not winning a game for decades and it became some sort of battlecry

"Three Lions" includes the lyric "40 years of hurt" in the original lyrics now decades out of date.

 

Joking aside the fans didn't go anywhere and stadiums are just mothballed for now.

 

Players are literal athletes so they should be just as healthy returning to the pitch for the Kickoff most people care about the games on the TV,

but i imagine local football which is what you might have had in mind will come back first so there may be a little boost while the TV is off.

 



#3 Claadehol

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Posted 06 May 2020 - 10:50 PM

Football is a global disease often passed down from father to son along with the associated bigotry. We have a pandemic to worry about, and lives being lost on a regular basis and and on an epic scale.

 

Football is a game played in many cases by overpaid prima donnas who have been elevated to superstar status by the sheep in the terraces. These loyal, blind, unwitting fans keep these stars in luxury by paying ludicrous prices for crap quality kit for their children and grandchildren.

 

These ridicuously overpaid "superstars" have shown their true colours lately by refusing to accept any pay cuts during this pandemic, even when the games are are not being played.

 

There has never been a football result yet that has made one iota of difference to my life. Football is therefore of little importance as far as I'm concerned, I'm happy when it isn't on the telly.


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#4 Colin

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Posted 07 May 2020 - 07:05 AM

You sound like my wife...  :rofl:


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#5 tarsus

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Posted 07 May 2020 - 08:01 AM

Claadehol.Well said, You are 100% correct



#6 XAM7102

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Posted 07 May 2020 - 09:11 AM

Claadehol & Tarsus

 

Football is a community sport and it brings a lot of people together, its great fitness for children and give's them many key social skills to take forward into thier adult life even if they dont continue to play the game.

 

Its also an industry in itself, on the mainland all the people going to games spending money benefits a huge amount of industries, from travel companies to local butchers and food suppliers, transport, hospitality, It employs thousands of people and generates a huge amount of money for the country.

 

Suggesting that all footballers are over paid prima dona's and the game is a disease is completely ignorant and show's a total lack of understanding in your whole post, what about the local amateur football is that a disease as well ? The kids training and playing all around Shetland is something you'd stop ?

 

And if your complaing abut it being on tv dear o dear can't you find enough content to watch ?

 

You appear to be something of a bigot yourself.


Edited by XAM7102, 07 May 2020 - 09:28 AM.


#7 Claadehol

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Posted 07 May 2020 - 10:32 AM

XAM7102 You sound quite angry there.

 

You're quite right of course, football spreads a bit of money about. Mind you, it costs a bit here and there in policing. It's just such a shame that competing tribes are still intent on killing each other in this day and age.They have to herded like wild animals at railway stations and kept well separate at the match itself. Kept separate on release from the stadium and guided onto buses well away from each other. They do occasionally kick windows out of buses to try and get at the enemy, but it brings people together right enough.

 

It brings people together, but so does war and corona virus.



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Posted 07 May 2020 - 10:39 AM

The game of rugby, although much more physical on the pitch, sets an example on behaviour which footballers and their fans might be wise to follow.



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Posted 07 May 2020 - 11:59 AM

The game of rugby, although much more physical on the pitch, sets an example on behaviour which footballers and their fans might be wise to follow.

I played a bit of rugby in my youth and, yes it was a bit "physical", but nowhere near as physical as the time we and the opposition stood on the pitch and watched the (small) crowd fighting.

 

Rugby is just as "tribal" as football.


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#10 XAM7102

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Posted 07 May 2020 - 12:57 PM

Claadehol

 

Which part of my post led you to the conclusion that i was angry ?



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Posted 07 May 2020 - 01:23 PM

Claadehol

 

Which part of my post led you to the conclusion that i was angry ?

 

Maybe it came across that way. The issue is that’s it’s not the small local teams that are trying to find a way round lockdown, but the big teams, with many over paid prima donnas on ridiculous salaries. I fully support football at a local level, but I’m not a fan of the money being spent on some players, where it would be better off being put into developing thousands of young up and coming footballers. No one is worth the money some of these footballers are paid every week. 


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Posted 07 May 2020 - 01:47 PM

@Windwalker, fair enough it maybe did come across that way but not intended.

 

 

I totally agree that the money spent on players and paid to players at the elite level is ridiculous, though this is what happens when big TV companies get involved offering billion pound deals such as the one covering the English Premier League. I dont buy any of those TV subscriptions and to be honest i am more interested in the lower league Scottish Football and the local amateur game.

 

But Football like so many other aspects of the world is all about the have and have nots.

 

There could well be some of the larger Scottish teams that really struggle if there is'nt fans returning to stadiums for a long time, i believe a lot of clubs are very reliant on ticket sales more than TV money to run thier clubs.


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#13 Claadehol

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Posted 07 May 2020 - 03:54 PM

Come on now Colin, rugby crowds are far more civilised than the football mobs. Why else would they ban beer at football matches yet allow it at rugby stadiums?

The answer being that that the football crowds are problem enough without alcohol, whereas the rugby crowds are able to take a drink and still behave themselves.

That just about sums things up.



#14 Windwalker

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Posted 07 May 2020 - 04:53 PM

@Windwalker, fair enough it maybe did come across that way but not intended.

 

 

I totally agree that the money spent on players and paid to players at the elite level is ridiculous, though this is what happens when big TV companies get involved offering billion pound deals such as the one covering the English Premier League. I dont buy any of those TV subscriptions and to be honest i am more interested in the lower league Scottish Football and the local amateur game.

 

But Football like so many other aspects of the world is all about the have and have nots.

 

There could well be some of the larger Scottish teams that really struggle if there is'nt fans returning to stadiums for a long time, i believe a lot of clubs are very reliant on ticket sales more than TV money to run thier clubs.

Understandably, it must be a worrying time for some of the clubs who could go under without ticket sales and I hope that something can be done soon to help, as there are a lot more staff than just the players who’s lively hoods are at risk.

 

I suppose a lot of folk may look at it as just a game and be more concerned about themselves getting back to work before sport. But each to their own.

 

I have to agree with Claadehol though regarding the small number of well paid players who refused to take a pay cut to help their club. When your on silly money, you seem to lose some morals.


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#15 Colin

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Posted 07 May 2020 - 05:28 PM

A link to Premiership players wages;

https://www.statista...salary-by-team/

 

There seems to be quite a spread between the top and the bottom of the league.

 

Personally, although I would agree that there is an obscene amount to money sloshing around the modern game, I would not criticise the players for not taking a cut in their contracted wages whilst the money is still sloshing around and until I see the billionaire club owners making a similar move.

 

Don't forget that the "top" players also have an army of parasitic agents and other "hangers on" taking a cut out of their pay cheques.   

Also, the players are on a negotiated salary and are not self employed. 

There is a lot more to it than just axing someone's pay. 

 

After all, would you like it if your boss told you that YOUR wage was being cut ?