ArabiaTerra Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Can you think of anywhere else the money might come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 well we do have some spare greenhouses and a small turbine would provide heat. and there is a cash crop that sells well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Can you think of anywhere else the money might come from? The income from the wind farm will go to the Charitable Trust. The only way the CT would be able to pay for the tunnels would be if they invested in a company that built and ran them. For the CT to do that there would need to be an income stream back to make it a worthwhile investment. This would either mean tolls or the SIC making a payment every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunnered Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 ^^Could the CT not just simply "gift" the tunnels or bridges to the Shetland community? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclaffalot Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Shouldn't someone expect to pay more (IE for ferry fares, goods or whatever) because they are living on an island? If there are any changes which will cost the local taxpayer more, why should the majority foot the bill for the minority? Suppose someone from Lerwick never ever goes to Whalsay on the new ferries/in a tunnel - should they really have to pay for it? By the same token why then should people in the country subsidise the clikimin centre , residential street lighting in lerwick and such like ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9walker Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 So the Linga has gone away for its annual refit, which this year includes urgent modifications to bring this vessel up to the current MCA standards to allow the carriage of the full compliment of 100 passengers. This will take a few weeks. During this time there will be very limited booking space on most all crossings. I called to reserve bookings for the next few weeks, which I could get none of for the next 3 weeks. These are all ferries required to take me to work and back, being in the morning or evening. My only alternative is to leave my car on the mainland for the next several weeks until the Linga's glorious return, when things will return to the normal busy schedule, and limited crossings. This situation is destined to continue for a minimum of 10 years from right now, as the 'Norwegian tunnel experts' told our council, that if they had the funding right now, it would be a minimum of 10 years before anyone would be driving through any tunnel. By then the 'Hendra' will be nearly 40 years old and will undoubtably need a new hull welded onto it, like the spare ferry, 'Thora' is currently getting fitted as I type. By then this spare ferry will be nearly 50 years old and its component parts should be of interest to historic engineering enthusiasts. But not to worry, there will soon be no need of any new ferries to Whalsay, If you look at page 32 of Shetland in Statistics below:https://webmail.shetland.gov.uk/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.shetland.gov.uk/documents/SinStatsBinder1.pdfYou will see that Whalsay's ferry reached its peak of transport figures in 2007, and is now in a steady decline. Among other facts from shetlands stats, Whalsay's population is aging faster than any other area in Shetland. This can only be due to the working youth leaving the isle, due to the inconvenience forced upon all of the isles' residents in getting on or off the place they once called home. Whalsay is rapidly becoming a retirement home, its a long way now from the booming industrious place of my youth. And the damage done to the community by the silly pier debate - a repeat of what severed the community in the 1950's - cannot be fixed easily. The evidence that nothing has been allowed to fix the ferry problem is a constant reminder. Windmills may come here, but correctly pointed out, the ferries will not transport them. Neither will the roads carry them. The Whalsay roads have been neglected by the council for over 20 years, when the last Whalsay roadmen were made redundant, never to be replaced. Roads are now maintained here by the rain and wind. I believe Gussie would stand a better chance of raising the tunnel funds with his £450k in a casino, rather than asking the heads of governments, given the obvious fragile state of the worlds' economy. So to close, I can only wish him the best of luck. A place I once considered a fine home's future depends on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whalsa Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Yun link dusnoo seem ti wirk 9walker... Weel said though, completely agree we de! Peety da cooncil ir too short sighted ti see whits goin on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 9walker wrote These are all ferries required to take me to work and back, being in the morning or evening. My only alternative is to leave my car on the mainland for the next several weeks until the Linga's glorious return, when things will return to the normal busy schedule, and limited crossings. Well there is the Orkney model with limited ferries to their islands or the former Shetland service with the Earl calling once a day. As well as considering tunnels and new ferries I would guess that a drastic reduction of service is also something the council has to consider when looking for its budget cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9walker Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Thanks Whalsa, I think I've corrected the link. Maybe the council know exactly whats goin on. Throwing away half a million on a dream of tunnel funding is cheaper than spending 26 million on new piers and ferries. They're no see silly efter aa. Changing the day boat & shift boat has already been considered to save some £1000's of pounds in fuel revenue on the Whalsay service annually. But so far this has been dismissed as the current level of service can only just sustain the place, as is now obvious to anyone trying to book ferries now that the Linga is away. Its becoming obvious that the big game plan is to evacuate the isle of all commuting working population, therefore reducing the need of ferries so regular. The stat figures show that its working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyochCloot Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 This is what I think will happen.... The ferries enoo is what's maybe stopping folk moving in to Whalsaa. Just to have the extra hassle we da ferry! So if you build a tunnel it will bring with it sooth moothers and folk from the mainland to live on the isle. Am brally sure the Whalsaa folk wid na want sooth moothers or folk lik fae cungo tae be moving in we dem. ( This happened with the isle of skye! I know because I keen folk fae der!) So I think if it did happen the die hard folk oh Whalsaa wid end up regretting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enkelt skapninger Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Am brally sure the Whalsaa folk wid na want sooth moothers or folk lik fae cungo tae be moving in we dem. Why would they not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 So if you build a tunnel it will bring with it sooth moothers and folk from the mainland to live on the isle. Am brally sure the Whalsaa folk wid na want sooth moothers or folk lik fae cungo tae be moving in we dem. Never have I read such racist bile on a forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilldellin Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 TyochCloot wrote quote :- Am brally sure the Whalsaa folk wid na want sooth moothers or folk lik fae cungo tae be moving in we dem. quote I tink da shunner dis is flushed doon da pan da better ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 So if you build a tunnel it will bring with it sooth moothers and folk from the mainland to live on the isle. Am brally sure the Whalsaa folk wid na want sooth moothers or folk lik fae cungo tae be moving in we dem. I hear fae it dir soothmoothers it bide a Whalsa already, an waur still, fok fae Lerik and Skalawaa..... Whit wye ir dey no gotten dem aw tarrd an feddered yit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9walker Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Oh dear people I believe you are moving away from the point of this thread. Never fear, I do not believe this will ever become an issue. A tunnel to Whalsay is about as likely to happen as a tunnel to the moon. Certainly in most living islanders lifetimes anyway. The last estimate was early 2010 at a cost of £80 - 112 million. This was before fuel prices begun spiralling out of control, so this estimate will be rising weekly with the price of fuel required to run any machinery used in the digging of tunnels. This was also before a change of government, and the massive cost cutting exercise which they have taken on. Meantime my car, like many other working commuter's, is on its way to the mainland to stay until the Linga returns in April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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