Njugle Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 I heard on Radio Shetland tonight that the SIC Transport gurus in their wisdom have decided that it would be 'cost effective' to buy another islander aircraft, yes, that would make two of them, so that should one be under repair or refit ther ewill always be another available. Which they alledge is a better idea that having one 'constantly available' on the UK mainland instead. They also claim that there may be uses for the second one in between service usage. As the Radio Shetland reporter valiantly observed it could be used for council trips away, being cheaper than using "Public Transport"An SIC equivalent of "Air Force One" he continued , good on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 whats the difrence with sic busses, ferries, or aircraft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Well, a long time ago, when some of us were young, some brave soul on the then council mooted the idea that the council should run it's own airline. 'Sic(k)Air' a certain local newspaper columnist of the day christened it.... The idea was laughed outta town by the public in general, and thrown out by the full council of the day. Yet, barely 30 years later, we have just that, a council airline, sneaked in the back door with nary a whimper from either public of council members..... Same thing happened with the street around the same time when the concrete slabs were laid it's full length. There was a small lobby in the council of the day gunning for new flags to be laid to replace the old, but again the idea was thrown out, as I seem to recall mainly on the grounds of cost. One generation seems tomake a very big difference, as once more we have the flags back, with their hassles, aggrivations and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little hitchcock Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 'Sic(k)Air' a certain local newspaper columnist of the day christened it.... The idea was laughed outta town by the public in general, and thrown out by the full council of the day. Yet, barely 30 years later, we have just that, a council airline, sneaked in the back door with nary a whimper from either public of council members.. I think that the convener of the SIC(k) has only one idea in his mind: "I want to be president of Shetland and I want my own plane - and now morgan wants his own plane too - and i want my own big white ferry and my own ministers and my I want to be very rich and very powerful and I want to sit at the same table as Dubblyabush and I want to be very very important. maybe i'll even declare war on edinburgh!" Any concern for the wellbeing of Shetland is gone out the window, any worry about good management of our oil cash is gone. He wants independence - not for the good of shetland, thats what we idiots beleive - but because then he could be president and morgan could be prime minister! Thats why they like faroe so much; it has a prime minister and an embassy in london ... maybe shannon could be embassador in london? and riise could be the john prescott of shetland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin13 Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Its really quite hard to comment on the economics of this unless you have an idea of the costs involved. I as a gut feeling would have felt that to buy a plane for an operator to use MAY be cost effective however I think again from a gut feeling that also buying a second spare one is tending towards being less justifiable. Really they would have had to have tendered on two basis ie supply of planes + backup aircraft included or SIC supply of Aircraft + backup. Then you can have a fair crack at getting the sums right. Of course its never as simple as that in real life with large lead times for new aircraft etc, but something along those lines should have been done, maybe it was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouth Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 I heard that Chris Hodge has done them a good deal. Buy one get one free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmie Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 our convener, at a recent event, joked to a senior official, du'll maybe look at gettin me a couple o yun muckle jets lik da faroemen hae..ha ha.Well I think he was joking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanchief Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 our convener, at a recent event, joked to a senior official, du'll maybe look at gettin me a couple o yun muckle jets lik da faroemen hae..ha ha.Well I think he was joking! Ironic that there is now one less "muckle jet" in Faroe after that one crashed yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmie Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Following the tragic accident with an Islander aircraft on air ambulance duties trying to land at Campbeltown last year, the recommendations seem to be that, having 2 pilots might have prevented this.As the SIC have joined the aviation world buy purchasing an Islander (or two?) should they not be looking at doubling up the pilots on the inter-island route? What price safety? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaflech Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 The SIC haven't really joined the aviation world. Yes they have purchased an Islander aircraft, but it is being operated and crewed by DirectFlight. They have the Air Operator Certificate, which is required for the operation of commercial aircraft, not the Cooncil The argument of 2 pilots surfaces everytime there is an accident with a smaller plane. Current UK legislation allows a plane with nine seats or less to be operated with just one pilot so that is what airlines do. If they provide a second pilot then he/she has to be paid, which means the aircraft have to make more money, which means the fares have to go up.......and so on and so on. The flip side of the argument is that, God forbid, a nine seat plane should come to grief with 2 pilots on board then one of them need not have been there. In the grand scheme of things £600,000 for an Islander (the figure quoted in the press at the time if memory serves me correct) is small change compared to the £6m for each of the new Yell sound ferries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudden Stop Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Da ya reacon will could sell a ferry and buy ten planes to shuttle people and frieght to yell? Cars would be trickier of course but just imagine tingwall with seven or eight islanders in a stack over head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaflech Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Ha Ha, would there be enough room for booked and unbooked lanes at Tingwall?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudden Stop Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Unbook pax are towed in guilders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njugle Posted December 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Unbook pax are towed in guilders Whuh? Most cryptic quote of the week prize goes to..... What's this got to do with dutch currency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudden Stop Posted December 24, 2006 Report Share Posted December 24, 2006 Okay, okay, okay, that should be gliders, shouldn't it!! Doh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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