Baron Farkoff

Excellent! I shall hop on el Bicycle and head over for some refreshment forthwith! Man the pumps!

Could you bring some proper ale(please!) most of the local brew is like dishwater. Except the red McGregor from Orkney, which is the best beer ever. Or was until they changed it. I'm sure they weakened it when the label was changed not long ago.

Right, First off I'm getting fed up with reading the same rant and loads of personal insults from you, Sheepshagger. Pack it in. We get the picture:You think that there is no such thing as recreational opiate use. OK, that is your point of view, fair enough, but your own sanctimonious tone makes me want to argue with you just for the sake of it: for example, I read a quote from Keef Richards the other day where he said that all the time he was using, he never had a cold. I'm not saying I agree with him, but there is a differnt point of view out there, and you need to cool head and stop calling people who engage with you on this subject "tossers" and suchlike. Someone Who Isn't Me likes to smoke Herb, but cannot get hold of any, because those infernal drug dogs are no good at detecting heroin, only the Maryjane. This is interfering with the education process, because youngsters who are bored with booze do not have the option,as many did years ago, to experiment with something much less harmful when they want to try something new. The choice up here is booze, booze more booze, or heroin. This ,and a number of other reasons is why this isolated and naive community now has 13 year-olds shooting up at school, or sat nodding out in cafes in Lerwick, taking it in turns to go to the toilets to fix. I saw a girl who looked like death sat doing this just the other day. Glaciers move faster. She ,deep inside, looked absolutely confused and overwhelmed by her situation, the simple act of applying makeup so difficult to her,as the group of older miscreants she was with clucked around, taking care of business in the toilet and openly talking about heroin as if they were untouchable, which to an extent they are, because Jock Public thinks that it's none of their business. The public sat resigned to this as if it was none of their business, except me, who had to leave, because I was getting angry. Who will help this girl? By the time she is old enough to know what is happening to her, she will probably be dead. If it wasn't for the fact that the only drug available up here is nasty stepped-on scouse smack she may have taken a different route through life and not ended up hanging around with a bunch of flaming smackheads. She may have done something else entirely with her life, you know. She could have tried some hash at a party while drunk, thrown up and never touched drugs again, who knows. Up here, she wouldn't have had that opportunity, and has headed straight into the arms of the only subculture available, and she doesn't stand a chance. Can anyone remember a time on Shetland when young men were caught in old peoples houses stealing and got such a clueless response from the legal system? I moved up here thinking there would be none of this. It seems to me that it takes a very special sort of person to rid their systems of this drug, and the very best of luck to them, whichever method they use. The rest are just smackheads who, like you say ss, are just playing the system until they can get sorted out. I almost agree with your post from 5.07 this morning saying that the only way out is through cold turkey, except that for some the other methods are better. The fact is that recreational drug use of any kind is not tolerated on Shetland, except in the way that most "straight" people just roll their eyes and ignore the activities of this different class of people (as they see it, I believe) and get confused when they see otherwise excellent people smoking a bit of pot, because then they have to lump them in with the "druggies". If some one had gone into the toilets in that cafe and emerged in a cloud of hash smoke the cops would have been there in an instant, I reckon, because it is easy to ignore an entire group of people, and just as easy to pick on folk who are enjoying themselves using something other than alcohol. There is a vast amount of ignorance surrounding this issue up here and , as Shetland Peat has pointed out repeatedly, education is the only way forward in the absence of a way for young'uns to learn for themselves, and I can't see things changing until it is easier to get hold of something mellow to smoke than it is to chase the bloody dragon.

Shetland Peat, I applaud your humane stance on this topic.... Speaking of which, My upcoming rant is in the wrong thread, so I'm off over to the drug thread!

Lots an' lots of Dr. John. Mac has got it goin' on!

No sirree, perhaps any advancement of age has only sharpened your perceptive faculties: I agree in the strongest possible terms that BBC4 is absolutely, unquestionably thoroughly brilliant. That is all.

OOPS Just woke up. Better get dem skates on.bwoy!!!

Snowglobe?

^ That Gibson is an amazing geeetar. I'm sure it would help my cack-handed technique no end. Or help me sound like Mc ****ing Fly. I just like the flashy lights, I think. Probably.

One of mine ,too. RIP.

I tried to read it but couldn't stop laughing at the photo! Seriously(ish), really good article. Thanks for that! (disappears into shed with soldering iron and lots of coffee....)

^Not that Lumley woman again? I hope the Everest chicken isn't affected, damn that stuff is addictive!

Mmmmmmmmm..... Fresh! Sho is Funky.

Oh man, salt and vinegar Discos are IMMENSE! No other potato based snack makes the tongue tingle quite as much. Yum!

har-har-har

"Alright here?" "We want the finest wines available to humanity. We want them here and we want them now." and cake... "We're coming back in here!"

^^^

I think that's quite a reasonable price, depending on the quality of the items in question. What kind of sandwich was it?

^Yeah, thanks for that JAS, Jack's great, isn't he?

What a lovely picture on the front of the paper today. Nice to see Kathy Hubbard smiling after a pretty grim fight, and victory, against the forces of mediocrity. Well done all!

Who are you talking too now, Sheepshagger?

Where did I say smack was ok? I was merely pointing out the lack of logic in your own post. I have an intense and active opposition to the distribution of junk. As I stated in one of my earliest posts on this forum, my opinion is that since there are only two ways for smack to get onto this island, the brave "viking" men should get together and sort out the people who are profiting at our childrens' expense once and for all. For some bloke( I assume you are male) to churn out this crap about Darwin etc on the internet saying it's ok for people to OD makes my pish boil, and people like you with your simple worldview have repeatedly demonstrated that you have nothing relevant to add to this complex debate otherwise you would have come up with a solution by now. Get a life, and a heart. How the hell do you know anything about my own experiences with any drug? I may have lost friends too, as well you don't know. As for wishing harm on me and mine, there you have crossed a line, and can Farkoff. You have shown yourself to be absolutely clueless and thoroughly ignorant in your correspondence on this and many other issues, I have noticed, spouting many a supposition not based on any fact. I pity the sheep.

Yeah, booze and fighting go together, too. It's just part of it: drink loads of alcohol and have a fight. I have friends who drink( I am totally disgusted with them, by the way) and if they get into a drunken brawl, then tough it's not like they didn't know better. They deserve to get totally beaten up, yeah! Darwin and his logic will soon sort these drunken idiots out and then we won't have a problem with alcohol at all, will we? I know at least two people who got into a fight after drinking just two pints. It's just part of the territory, and that's all fine.Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.(see sheepshaggers post above)

I think you should perhaps give your crystal ball a quick wipe, Sheepshagger, it appears that you have frothed all over it. Can you guys give the pleepsing negativity a rest? The thing is being built and the only way you can help it not be a success is to not attend. This sort of banter was fun when the outcome was undecided. Now, post-vote, it is just tiresome, and so I won't be bothering to comment any further unless there are any fresh, relevant developments.

I don't claim to understand the maths behind this, but I know people who do. I might also know people who may be able to get this horse to market. You just never know. In my posts on this thread I have tried to get GHM to explain these ideas in a way that makes it clear to potential investors that this can work in a business environment, and that its creator is a sound proposition. So far, I haven't come accross much evidence of this except for a smattering of formulae and some really rather highly strung and un-businesslike waffle. So, at the end of the day, I am no closer to understanding this device or the intentions of its creator, and since I am one of those lesser educated mortals for whom the penny drops extremely slowly without coloured-in pictures, my involvement in this once very interesting tale ends here.