mhutch Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 And now for something really stupid... The protestors have done a "Change of shift"! Yup you read right. Two protestors left the chain and two new went in You couldn't make it up!I trust the Northern Constabulary have locked up the ones who came off? it will likely depend on what theyre told to do, enough of a stink on here will surely create attention to how folk are feeling , hence creating some kinda conclusion , ideally arrests yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talpa Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Thanks Skunnered... I can see that what happened in the GoM doesn't mean it will happen here and safety is surely tighter now. And, I see they are not exactly the same. But, it brutally illustrated how a community can be devastated if something does go tits up. The more drilling the greater the risk? Maybe not? Just seems like common sense that would be the case. If folk trust the oil companies then perhaps it is a risk they are willing to take or they don't think it is a risk. Shetland had its close shave - maybe oil doesn't strike twice??!! I would have thought that out of anyone it would be people here who would want the most reassurance after seeing the GoM on TV/ media. Or at least to wait until all the conclusions about it have been reached before damning GP. On the otherhand, I get that GP just piss some people off. Dunno... ponder....ponder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhutch Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 ^^ everybody wants oil , n shetland as whole needs oil , what do you think the power station runs on? , greenpeace is a totally toothless tiger wasting time n costing money, hindering police and causing concearn to rescue services, bans n writs are dished out in lerwick sherriff court like sweeties on the most paltry of things , surely something can be done about this pointless spectacle because they are going to drill anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talpa Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 I was in Faroe when GP were trying to stop them getting whales. GP left and two days later there were 50/60 whales 'got'. It was pretty bloody - I gotta say. But, even the Faroese who don't think they should hunt whales anymore didn't like GP being there because it was their tradition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhutch Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 I was in Faroe when GP were trying to stop them getting whales. GP left and two days later there were 50/60 whales 'got'. It was pretty bloody - I gotta say. But, even the Faroese who don't think they should hunt whales anymore didn't like GP being there because it was their tradition. airy fairy bleeding heart liberals tryin to dictate , perhaps that was where thier line of thought was coming from ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppet Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Or at least to wait until all the conclusions about it have been reached before damning GP. Likewise should GP not wait until all the conclusions are reached before wading in with their stupid stunts endangering lives and our environment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppet Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 in effect all they are doing is costing the oil companies money which in turn will put the price of everything to the consumer up And in turn pushing Oil company profits up which will make deep water drilling even more attractive. Thery really are on a hiding to nothing with this little display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talpa Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 airy fairy bleeding heart liberals tryin to dictate , perhaps that was where thier line of thought was coming from ? Yeah, that was my point. Well, pretty fundamentalist hardcore seadogs in that case - but yip, anyone trying to dictate is just annoying even if you agree with them. Stating the obvious I admit. But, oil and whales are different. Shetland bang in the middle of the biggest row/ debate/ stoooshy for generations: oil/ end of oil/ or is it?/ what next/ use of Shetland land/ sea for energy. There's going to be a even bigger boys coming into the playground soon I guess with opinions and power. Muppet - yes, they probably should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavi Ugl Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Good to hear on the news tonight that the Police are taking a stronger line with GP tonight. Namely that they should cease their protest and come down from the anchor chains due to the increasing bad weather/rough conditions because they're putting themselves and others at risk. Needless to say, GP remain defiant...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upmakk Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Namely that they should cease their protest and come down from the anchor chains due to the increasing bad weather/rough conditions because they're putting themselves and others at risk. I'd a look this afternoon. The vessel was head to wind, the starboard anchor down at wave level, and the survival pod fixed to the chain some feet above. As you may imagine, it was fairly frequently getting dunted against the bow. A sleepless night is probably the least they can expect ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 But, oil and whales are different.Indeed so, though it is perhaps a bit ironic that the expansion of the petroleum oil industry came about in part as a way of replacing the exhausted whale oil industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue beetle Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Shipping forecast for tonite Northerly 6 to gale 8. Seastate Rough or very rough. And i believe they have pointed her into the wind. They might get more publicity than the bargained for. The chances of this all going wrong are getting higher IMO. How are the police going to explain away that . If this ends in tragedy.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 ....the environmental pressure group [Greenpeace] admitted they had a long way to go to win the hearts and minds of local people. Wella, nae kiddin'. A, flogging, horse, dead. http://www.shetland-news.co.uk/2010/September/news/Greenpeace%20face%20up%20to%20local%20criticism.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 even the Faroese who don't think they should hunt whales anymore didn't like GP being there because it was their tradition. Eh? as far as I know fae the Faroese folk I've spoken tae they certainly think they SHOULD still be hunting Pilot Whales, an good on them, it's an important part of their culture. Or did you mean the minority of Faroese people, who think they shouldn't hunt whales? just realised that's maybe what you meant, Ah weel, I suppose I have no choice but tae admit there might be a positive out of this stunt. Looking at all the regulars posting here, some of whom I have had quite heated debate with, others who have had their own peerie disagreements, its kinda heartening to see nearly everybody on the same side. Mods take note - only suitable subject for mass shetlink meetup is Greenpeace. Count me in too. An Me too! Don't really have anything more to add as everything I would have said has been covered I think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Haaf Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 They state in the Shetland News article that public opinion is 'split'. It's a pity they don't mention that the split is likely over 90% against them. Although, in Greenpeace's favour, I have to admit that they deserve a huge vote of thanks for one thing. Giving us something else to speak about apart from the sharny weather. PS. Also, Sandy must be very pleased that all the attention has been diverted from him for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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