MJ Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 I realise Shetland does not and as never had a bullying problem within their schools - I take it this is why I cannot find an electric copy of any bullying policies for the school system here. Does anyone have a papercopy, or are able to talk me through certain points?.Also does anyone have experience with the complaints system and any tips for getting complaints taken on board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 Can't help you, sorry. But you may want to correct the typo in the title, right now it says something I don't think you want it to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted May 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 thanks for that I forget how bad my sight sets during a migraine, and my typing aint the best just know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 all formal complaints are now ment to be delt with by the ed dept. in reality as you know that does not happen. they are more intrested in covering it up than sorting it out. else were they would get suspended at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances144 Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 My eldest daughter was bullied at Aith. I phoned and talked to her allocated teacher (they have a posh name for it) and told them. He dealt with it instantly but the damage had been done. As things got worse, I then asked for a meeting with the Head, her teacher and we talked about the situations - on the school bus, and in school. All the right noises were made but the damage to my daughter had still been done and she was beginning to refuse to go to school in Shetland. Well, you know what happened next...... Ring me if I can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted May 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 I have to point out here my daughter is not the victim here - this time. And I am so angry, how am I expected to combat unacceptable behaviour if they don't inform me of it?The culture currently in that school seems to be harking back to the 80's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootfirdamoon Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 This is something I have actually been researching lately in order to update information for young people on this subject. In my trawling through the school websites I only managed to find an anti-bullying policy for the AHS and Sandwick schools. I have to say I only looked online so I am not for a second sugesting others don't exist, just that they are not online. The one for the Anderson is a page in the School Handbook, which explains their policy, though it doesn't really give any step-by-step instructions on the actions you should take if there is an incident you'd like to report. Or if it did, I didn't happen upon it. Sandwick seem to have a very clear policy and even offer an online reporting system, which I think is great as it can be very, very difficult for a child to come forward in person. Wish I could do more to help, but that's all I managed to find out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted May 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 From the school handbookSECTION 13 Â COMPLAINTSWe do try at all times to follow our Mission Statementwhich is to “provide a safe, caring, stimulating environmentwhich will give pupils confidence to achieve their fullpotentialâ€.  Our aim also is to treat everyone  pupils, parents and staff Â equally and fairly irrespective of background, race, colour or creed. We do recognise, however, that there may be situations in which you may feel that we do not live up to the high standards we set ourselves.  If you have concerns we would want to hear from you.  Any formal complaint, whether made by parent, pupil, member of staff or thepublic, will be logged and the complainer informed of action taken.  Incidences of bullying or racism are also recorded along with whatever followÂup is made. If you feel that you are not satisfied with the actions taken by the school you may wish to pursue the matter with the Head of Schools at Hayfield House, Lerwick Any formal complaint, whether made by parent, pupil, member of staff or the public, will be logged and the complainer informed of action taken.Anyone any idea how long the "complainer" has to wait before any action is taken? How long do people think is reasonable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootfirdamoon Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 It doesn't seem to say in the policy, but I would think a week is long enough personally. And I would imagine that policy should be a maximum of 14 days. To be honest, if immediate action was taken, as it sounds like it should have been, I would have expected a week to be more than long enough. It certainly sounds like you are not satisfied with their response, and the policy states that if you are not satisfied you should complain to the head of schools. I think that would be a good course of action, particulary as if no one complains, only the young people involved will suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GypsyScy Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 http://www.scalloway.shetland.sch.uk/parents/documents/Anti-bullyingpolicy.pdf Here's the one for Scalloway, obviously names of teachers need updating as Joyce and Mhari have left...but the policy is in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 There would have to be a reasonable time to establish the facts. I don't think a week is enough.As in real life, should the accused be suspended until hearing or investigation is over? If it were your child, would you be happy that an investigation was done in 4 days? I think, parties should be updated with progress, rather than the facts so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootfirdamoon Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 I take your point Shetlandpeat that an investigation may well take more than a week. I was meaning more that MJ should have heard that an investigation had at least started. If it were my child I would hope that I would be informed immediately that they were being bullied/in trouble as I feel that, as a parent, I would have a right to know the facts so far so as to begin to counsel the child. I understand that we do not live in an ideal world but if you are trusting someone else to deal with a serious issue I think it is reasonable to be kept in the loop as to what is taking place. When an individual feels a child has been treated unfairly they need to see it is being dealt with, to avoid them taking the matter on themselves, which is what the anti-bullying policies are in place to avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 we had to remove sam from the school to understand how serious we felt it was. if they could be bothered to tell the parents that things have happened then they can be sorted. really if a child is being bullied or accused of bullying we must know so we can help sort it. once they understand how seriously you feel they then do try to sort it. however were always the last to know. there is a need for clear sactions in the school policy. they must also keep to them and not write it off as kids behaviour. if a child knows that they will be excluded for so long or be kept in depending on the seriousness of the bullying they will stop. It was the same with the cane most kids never got it but you knew the line and if you passed it then you knew the punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 paulb wrote if a child knows that they will be excluded for so long or be kept in depending on the seriousness of the bullying they will stop.Probably true in Shetland but I am given to understand that getting excluded from school is regarded as something to be proud of in certain circles on the mainland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanofNess Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Anyone any idea how long the "complainer" has to wait before any action is taken? How long do people think is reasonable? I think the persons involved should be notified immediately, I don't think a strict time limit should be put on the investigation of a complaint just however long is necessary to get to the bottom of it properly but they should keep the parents updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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