tlady Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Taken from the Council Tenants Handbook 5.2 SubLettingand LodgersIf you would like to take in lodgers or subletyour house you mustobtain written permission from us first. You must apply to us in writing.Tell us the name of the subtenantor lodger, the proposed rent chargeand the date you want this to start. Your prospective lodger/subtenantmust also apply to us in writing.We will not refuse your request unless we have reasonable grounds fordoing so. For instance if:· We are seeking an order for your eviction· You have breached your tenancy rights· You intend to charge an unreasonable rent· The change would lead to overcrowding or under occupation· We intend to carry out works to the property· You have rent arrears and have made no effort to pay them.You must remember that whilst you have a lodger or are subletting,you still remain responsible for the tenancy. This includes paying rent,maintaining the property in a reasonable condition and ensuring thereis no disturbance to the neighbours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Very suprised! Maybe I can understand subletting if you have a job or some education south, not for twice the normal rent as quoted earlier. Still, if you think the charge is unfair, report it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyboy Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Interesting case near me. A couple on benefits have split up. The woman has kept her house and the man has been given a new one to live in. But as far as I can see they are still together. So a couple are now taking up an extra house that someone from the waiting list could be in.By the way subletting is definately allowed. I know two people that sublet for quite a long time. One occasion for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 It may be that they were both on the tenancy aagreement. They may not be able to live together, you fail to indicateAny children and if there are, child care. Sub letting for years? It is reasonable to say they do not needHousing that the community subsidise and possibly making a Profit by keeping someone on the waiting list longer and possibly letting othersQ jump over those who may have a genuine need.[/code] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyboy Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Funnily enough I haven't seen their tenancy agreement. I am trying to keep it as general as possible so as not to identify them. But they lived as man and wife, Have now split up and have two houses but are still a couple. They seem to take it in turns where they stay. They have no kids.as for the subletting. The case that went on for years was a friend who had moved to Edinburgh and let her house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mucklejo Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 i know someone who sublet there house for a while through hjatland. that person and the tenant signed an agreement and the tenant had to pay only the rent that is charged to the other person. they also gave the person 30 pound a month as it was fully furnished. dont think anyone subletting is supposed to charge anything but the actual rent. usually the contract is for up to 6 months but if no problems they can usually continue it. the original tenant is ultimately responsible for the rent getting paid etc though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattie Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 I would be very suprised if sub-letting is ok.Many contracts forbid it. Try reporting it and see what happens.My friend did report this. Was told it was ok.I think I will query Hjaltland myself.It is totally unjust that Hjatland tenants are subletting their properties to make a profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemy Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 ^^^^^yes, because it ceases to be a home that they need but an additional income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amno Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 yep hit the nail on the head, personaly id make a maybe one or two allowances eg if a person is going south for a pre determained period of time but if they have another house in the area then no, no chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 The UK GOV have announced that subletting council houses will be a criminal offence with jail terms and those who are on reasonable wages will pay FULL market rents, not good for Shetland if they go by average earnings. They bring these things out when u r not looking for em, above board or wot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pleepsie Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 ^^high-income tenants who can afford to buy or rent a house comfortably but instead choose to live in a council house at much lower rents than those paid in the private sector. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8986185/Council-house-tenants-who-sublet-homes-to-be-prosecuted.html Not targeting "those who are on reasonable wages " Bob Crow, the leader of the RMT union with a pay and perks package of around £140,000, lives in a council house in London with rent estimated to be around £150 a week. He is one of those who would be targeted by the proposals. He was unavailable for comment last night – but his spokesman has previously said that Mr Crow makes “no apology†for living in social housing. But high income people like Bob Crow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Won't it just mean that the 6000 houses get bought at a silly discount by the folks on 100k. why sonmeone would be in a council hous on that wage puzzles me. How will this rule effect shetland as the SIC allows sublets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exciseman Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 not good for Shetland if they go by average earnings.Why? because the last time I looked out the window Shetland was still in the northern North Sea and administered by Scotland and not in either England or Wales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Shetland Average is quite high, as detailed in the happy place to live report by a bank. Just a thought. I am still amazed about the sub-letting of social housing, especially at the rates that have been indicated on here. It also makes a mockery of some the Q/point system, if you got the cash you get the social house. Despite what opinions you may have of the system and how unfair it is, what ever system is in place can be ignored. The rent quoted for Mr. Crow is twice what I pay for private rent. Just a thought too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pleepsie Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 The rent quoted for Mr. Crow is twice what I pay for private rent. Just a thought too. Bob Crow pays about half the rent of a similar property in North-East London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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