jack reacher Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Do you think there is any chance the SIC could fix the Pedestrian crossing light in Lerwick? There has been three sets not working since the middle of December.That is now over two months. Will it need for someone to get run over trying to cross before they are fixed? Council trying to run a Fibre Network but cannot fix a light bulb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunchieSquirrel Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 I often see a lot of pedestrians crossing the roads just 5ft away from the traffic lights. I always use the traffic lights and I believe that it is only the cowardly who use the crossings while the daredevils just run across the road. I think that the council should encourage people to use them more often to reduce road accidents and serious injuries, I mean, young children could have already passed this on but I believe they should also do this with cyclists. I don't like seeing people on bikes without helmets, I wish people should act upon road safety because they could be passing it to other generations as well as it becoming a habit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urabug Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 It's cut backs, trying to save some money here !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland_boys Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 When the lights are out cars are meant to stop for people waiting to cross, I stopped and waited yesterday while 12 cars passed the other way. Poor show shetland drivers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Do you think there is any chance the SIC could fix the Pedestrian crossing light in Lerwick? There has been three sets not working since the middle of December.That is now over two months. Will it need for someone to get run over trying to cross before they are fixed? Council trying to run a Fibre Network but cannot fix a light bulb! When you contacted them, what did they say. They would have let you know really what the procedure is. I would get back to them and reaffirm your complaint if I were you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piggywiggie Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 A few times I have nearly been run over while using the lights by free field. Seems it doesn't matter if they work or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 Do you think there is any chance the SIC could fix the Pedestrian crossing light in Lerwick?There has been three sets not working since the middle of December.That is now over two months.Will it need for someone to get run over trying to cross before they are fixed?Council trying to run a Fibre Network but cannot fix a light bulb!As far as I have heard.... they are at the end of their life, you can't get spares any more, and the budget to replace them has not been given any money. Bit more than bulbs required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 A few times I have nearly been run over while using the lights by free field. Seems it doesn't matter if they work or not!I have seen a fellow worker nearly being run over at the lights at Freefield and there have been people killed at a similar crossing I used to use in "a city in southern England". Best advice is to press the button but do not cross until you are sure the traffic has stopped. As for the SIC fixing broken crossings am I right in thinking that they rely on specialist engineers from "south" to fix the things and it is cost effective to wait until there are several crossings needing repair before getting an engineer to fix them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglad Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 As for the SIC fixing broken crossings am I right in thinking that they rely on specialist engineers from "south" to fix the things and it is cost effective to wait until there are several crossings needing repair before getting an engineer to fix them. Nope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaflech Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 As for the SIC fixing broken crossings am I right in thinking that they rely on specialist engineers from "south" to fix the things and it is cost effective to wait until there are several crossings needing repair before getting an engineer to fix them. I would think they would be on fairly shaky ground legally if that was the case. Can you imagine if somebody was seriously injured or killed at a pedestrian crossing where there was a known, reported fault, and within a 'reasonable timescale' hadn't been repaired? Regardless of who was at fault, I think the council would have a lot of explaining to do if they admitted that they were waiting for x number of other lights to fail before they fixed them. I find a big problem with pedestrian crossings is drivers starting to move the nanosecond that the lights change from RED to RED/AMBER, and then look at you as if you've just eaten their first born as you go about your road crossing business. According to the Highway Code RED/AMBER still means STOP, and do not move until the green light comes on. Granted a lot of pedestrians don't help themselves by ripping across the road just as the little green man makes his last flash.Personally I think we should do away with the amber light altogether and just have red and green, that way it is unambiguous as to who is doing what. This could be enhanced by a countdown timer for the pedestrians to see, showing how many seconds until the vehicular light turns to green, then it is down to them to make the decision if sufficient time is left to cross. Dangerous thing though, letting the public make up their own minds about something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 The problem really is S.I.C. may have failed in a duty of care or similar. If lights are known not to work and will be not working for a while, they have to be bagged, the button covered and if it were me, a pedestrian barrier in place to stop folk crossing there. If of course what is being posted here is correct. The highway code kicks in there, as the pedestrian has to find a save place to cross and drivers have to be more aware of the situation. Although it may not be ideal, you do have to be sensible, the reason the lights are there is because it is dangerous to cross without them, so if they are not working, then should the blame them be levied at the foot of the S.I.C. if there is an accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 When the lights are out cars are meant to stop for people waiting to cross, I stopped and waited yesterday while 12 cars passed the other way. Poor show shetland drivers! I don't think so if they are stood on the kerb; however, if pedestrians are standing in the road then apparently you ain't allowed to run them over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urabug Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 The highway codesays :-- 196 Signal-controlled crossingsPelican crossings. These are signal-controlled crossings where flashing amber follows the red ‘Stop’ light. You MUST stop when the red light shows. When the amber light is flashing, you MUST give way to any pedestrians on the crossing. If the amber light is flashing and there are no pedestrians on the crossing, you may proceed with caution. So who waits for green if crossing clear ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaflech Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 ^^Hopefully nobody, but my gripe is with drivers who start moving the second the lights change to red/amber, when there are still folk on the crossing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 this is lerwick not the middle of manchester. if a crossing is not working cross the road in a safe manner and who needs a highway code to tell the drier not to run over people in the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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