JAStewart Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Obviously, this will never happen as the government makes way too much money from it, but since it (and fags) kill more people than all other drugs combined x 1000, why should it be kept legal? I, obviously would like it to be kept legal, but thats thanks to the binge culture in Shetland, so I'm asking the question from a kind of information-finderer-outter point-a-view. Opinions? Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Perhaps the experience of the United States during prohibition. Criminals well able to supply the product to anyone with the cash. And the deaths from home made spirits. Also I suspect a drink ban would hurt the tourist trade which is very important to the UK. Moving a bit sideways can anyone produce any good reasons for Shetlands pubs and clubs to be open after 11pm on ordinary weeknights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoolHaddock Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Moving a bit sideways can anyone produce any good reasons for Shetlands pubs and clubs to be open after 11pm on ordinary weeknights. The unemployed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeriebryan Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Moving a bit sideways can anyone produce any good reasons for Shetlands pubs and clubs to be open after 11pm on ordinary weeknights.Adults should be able to make the decision as to when they vist a pub or club. I don't think we need the licencing board to look after us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyVocoustic Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Obviously, this will never happen as the government makes way too much money from it, but since it (and fags) kill more people than all other drugs combined x 1000, why should it be kept legal? I, obviously would like it to be kept legal, but thats thanks to the binge culture in Shetland, so I'm asking the question from a kind of information-finderer-outter point-a-view. Opinions? Thoughts? Not just the government making money - its a HUGE industry with thousands of jobs/lives dependant on it! But policing and hospital costs are HUGE as well. Also a means of social control - everyone is out getting pissed instead of plotting to overthrow the government! Andy 8O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HacksawDuggan Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Also a means of social control - everyone is out getting pissed instead of plotting to overthrow the government! Andy 8O I often plot to overthrow the government whilst pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deardron Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Perhaps the experience of the United States during prohibition. Criminals well able to supply the product to anyone with the cash. And the deaths from home made spirits.The same bad experience we've had here in Russia 20 years ago when Gorbachev launched his "anti-alcohol action". This way has been tried in many countries but I think always with the same negative result. That's almost a philosophical problem: on the one hand, alcohol industry and trade provide a lot of people with job, state budget gets taxes and tolls out of it; on the other hand hundreds of people die annually in car accidents caused by drunk drivers, dozens of thousands loose their health ability to work due to alcoholism etc etc etc. But nobody has counted yet which one weighs more, employment&taxes or losses of people's lives and health with all its negative effect on economics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeriebryan Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 The same bad experience we've had here in Russia 20 years ago Hey deardron. Are you posting from Russia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deardron Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Hey deardron. Are you posting from Russia?Yes, exactly! Are there any Russians in Shetland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njugle Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I don't think we need the licencing board to look after us I beg to differ, after fourteen pints with JD chasers you certainly do need looking after. Are there any Russians in Shetland? There are some. I know of a couple of ladies who i think have married into the place. I'm led to believe they are russian. There are a number of other ex-eastern block people, but i'm not going to offend anybody by presuming they are russian! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Perhaps the experience of the United States during prohibition. Criminals well able to supply the product to anyone with the cash. And the deaths from home made spirits. Also I suspect a drink ban would hurt the tourist trade which is very important to the UK. So, it seems that if a substance is against the law, it will do more harm to society. Then, tourists need to be intoxicated to enjoy the country.It's not that bad. Is it? But, even in its legal state, alcohol is involved in more social problems than anything else.I wonder how much it really does cost, would there be a break down of the actual cost per unit to the community in money terms, let alone the harm it does people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhutch Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 doot its a bit like un-inventing da atomic bomb , however i do whole heartedly agree about over consuming , blootered folk are a bloody menace , and the aftermath does cost a fortune in tears n hits nhs etc hard , but still , in reality is it no a slightly lesser evil to hash heads who cant be bothered to turn out and paranoid psychotics on hard stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudden Stop Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I often plot to overthrow the government whilst pissed. Yeah, but you've forgotten how you were going to do it by the next morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudden Stop Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 One of the MAJOR problems is that bar staff will continue to serve people even when they are clearly already intoxicated. I believe that is against licensing laws but it happens in every pub, every night of the week. I know it's difficult for landlords to decide not to sell a product to a customer who is happy to purchase but they SHOULD. To resolve the binge drinking problems that we have you have to enforce the existing laws fully OR hike up the prices - significantly. If there was a minimum pricing of something like (and I know this is painfully to think about) 5 quid a unit, alcohol would very rapidly become some only consumed in small quantities and during special occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twerto Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 it is pretty much like anything else.. a small percentage making the rest of partakers look bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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