Clive's Record Shop

[BigMouth]

I have noticed that a lot of Clive's cd's and dvd's are cheaper than tesco just now. Got some good dvd's 3 for £20!!! Worth a look

 

This has actually been the case for sometime now as I've said before wether people on here want to believe that or not or could even be bothered to take some excercise and hop on down to find that out themselves!

 

Cheers

 

The problem is that it is at the bottom of the hill. OK to walk to, but uphill on the way back! In fact I am thinking of asking Tesco if I can park in the doorway!

[Twerto]

I agree with PB. It woudl be a very sad day if this were true. Clives serves shetland very well and the support he has given Dj's up here over the years is great

[Vik]

Just the normal ripple effect when TESCO, ASDA etc come to a toon near you! Lots of choice, mostly crap especially electrical (no garantee it works, tools that canna take a screw out, chairs that fall doon when you sit on them but hey folks its cheap so has to better than local.

 

This thing about choice is a lie. TESCO & ASDA cut the price in an area to close the opposition down and then put their prices up as they command the retail arena. Clives & several other locally avoided shops may well go under but at the end of the day if all there was was TESCO, choice would be reduced by more than any one person could imagine.

 

I am proud to not shop at TESCO for all the reasons TESCO are bad for but realise its down to choice. However if folk in Shetland want choice they must also use the Co-op and all the small local shops in toon or in the rural places if they want a choice.

 

TESCO are a retailing monster that kill farmers, factory's, local shops, choice and regional culture. Get your buy one free but be aware of what comes if you shop only at TESCO;.

[Siccar]

Has anybody bothered to find out if this is true?

[shetlandpeat]

Probably not.

 

I think there may have to be some sorta Mod about this, it may already be covered, but, posting here, with such a small community could harm some individual or business and without representation from the owner.

 

But, it could increase business.

 

I would stick to the former to be safe.

[piggywiggie]

people have said that its closing for a few years now, and it hasnt so i doubt it true.

[JordanKZ]

Yes, the CD and DVD prices aren't too bad at Clives. But their video game prices are insane. Why buy something for up to £15 more than online? Worst is that they never drop their prices. Video games depreciate very quickly in value and yet they'll keep charging up to £30 for something you can get online for £15 or less.

[smeghead]

If half the shops in town competetively priced thier goods then maybe they wouldn't see such a dramatic decline in trade.

 

I know from personal experience that after returning faulty goods to a well known Lerwick trader, I looked for a replacement item online as it was for a christmas present, I found the item not only £15 cheaper but with free delivery and it wasnt from some high street behemoth either.

(£15 is a huge difference in price considering the item was priced £54 locally)

 

So if small as well as large companies from south can sell items cheaper with free delivery to Shetland, howcome local traders can't sell at similar prices?

 

Does't that in turn mean that the local market is monopolised and the local traders are purely profiteering? akin to what they all accuse companies like Tesco's of doing. Which in my book makes them all as bad as one another. The only way people stay in business is to be competetive, not to force customers into paying over the odds, when that happens, people go elsewhere.

[skylad]

I agree Smeghead, I get items sent up by my rellies. Why should I pay £3.99 for one item when my Aunt can send me the exact same item for 4 for a pound off a market stall. Why should I pay £ 40.00 for a shirt when the exact same one is on John St market for a fiver! Why should I pay £25.00 for a necklace when you can get them off as london market stall for £1.00. The traders do not pay that much transport!

I do use Clives though and will be sorry to see it go.( If it is)

[ISOT]

^ Great comparisons there! Wish we could get a market like that here!

 

Cheers

[manson647]

The smaller shops were taking a hit before tesco's was here, with the country in recession we can't really expect anythin else but I have to say I am happy that places likes Clive's have taken notice and are offering better deals.

 

When online stores are offering free delivery on goods it does make people wonder why local stores are still charging a minimum of £5 over and above high street prices when they buy the goods for the same price and are already selling it on for more than double they buy it at in the first place

 

We get penalised enough for living on an island with the fuel and travel expenses so we should at least be offered deals elsewhere...

[ISOT]

The smaller shops were taking a hit before tesco's was here, with the country in recession we can't really expect anythin else but I have to say I am happy that places likes Clive's have taken notice and are offering better deals.

 

When online stores are offering free delivery on goods it does make people wonder why local stores are still charging a minimum of £5 over and above high street prices when they buy the goods for the same price and are already selling it on for more than double they buy it at in the first place

 

We get penalised enough for living on an island with the fuel and travel expenses so we should at least be offered deals elsewhere...

 

DO th ey buy their goods at the same prices as online retailers and DO they sell their goods at double the price they buy them at, thats a pretty big assumption.

 

This is going the way as most of these threads tend to do here with people going around in circles arguing about the same old stuff!

 

I truly hope Clive's stays open because its a valuable retailer to 'the street' and Shetland as a whole. If people think otherwise I think they've got their head up their backside!

 

I bought a couple of BluRays today for a penny short of a tenner and a new release at 16.99! Somehow I don't think Clive made £13/£14 out of that sale!

[Piddly]

^ Great comparisons there! Wish we could get a market like that here!

 

Cheers

[DavieG]

Clive has often told me that the price he has to pay a standard wholesaler or distributer is more expensive than the price CD's and DVD's actually retail for in supermarkets - when sold initially or on new release at least. A no win there!!! That's the buying and selling power of the likes of Amazon, Tesco and Sainsbury's.

 

I also deal with releasing CD's for folk, and when we take on a distributor -often the only way to get your 'product' into most / certain stores, online etc - they take (and have done over the years) on average a 33% cut of the wholesale price from us to do their job and get it onto the 'high street' etc for us.

 

We are then FORCED to give the so-called 'big buyers' such as Amazon and the likes of Tesco a FURTHER 20% discount on the wholesale price or else it's a no-go with them. That's how they do business and can offer the prices they do. You can make up your own minds re who's trying to corner the market and rip people off in this respect!! Sellers and suppliers at least.

 

Of course the buyer initially appears to benefit from lower retail prices - but for how long once this market is finally and inevitably conquered by them???

 

Up until the time of Amazon etc Clive offered genuinely lower prices than almost any store or mail order outlet on the mainland - most certainly HMV and Virgin who were often £3 - £4 more expensive per CD than him. So he's given us all a great service both in terms of price, value and range of product for many years - take that as read from an avid CD buyer.

 

He's now simply suffering the problems that ever other record store and indeed musician nationwide / worldwide is facing - rapidly decreasing CD sales and low cost opposition from the likes of Amazon and supermarkets. Sad but true and there appears no end to it. Records stores across the country are closing rapidly - as indeed are bigger retailers such as Virgin / Zavvi (now gone) and now HMV too. What happens when the are finally gone. You can guess!!!!

 

I spoke to Clive yesterday (when I was in buying a CD) and thankfully he's not planning on closing - yet!!! I for one most certainly hope he does not. He still offers a very competative price compared to most retailers in this business and more importantly the range of product too.

 

Let's see if the bigger stores etc continue to do that once they have finally strangled the market.

 

Remember it's not only retailers that are losing out, musicians are too!!!!

 

Also I wonder who will retail 'local' and even smaller demand / niche market CD's once the likes of Clive are finally gone? You won't get Tesco's to do that for you - and download sales simply have not (and will not) replace CD sales (or the income from them) in this particular marketplace, and they too provide next to no financial return for the musicians who turn out the product in the first instance.

 

I suppose if the bigger percentage of musicians themselves can no longer afford to make / sell CD's any longer due to lack of income we wont have to worry though will we??

[Twerto]

I accept this is slightly digressing from clives but similar in some ways..

 

But in relation to your last commetn davie.

Also I wonder who will retail 'local' and even smaller demand / niche market CD's once the likes of Clive are finally gone? You won't get Tesco's to do that for you - and download sales simply have not (and will not) replace CD sales (or the income from them) in this particular marketplace, and they too provide next to no financial return for the musicians who turn out the product in the first instance.

 

I have been an MP3 whore for quite sometime now and i do have a sense of guilt for not supporting clives more than i used to as a teenager. But with MP3 fast aproaching a bigger market than CD's could clive not diverse into a MP3 online shop where he could still provide an outlet for local bands probably easier than he is at the moment? He could also still specialise in all the great music he is known for sourcing for anyone and the latest charts for those who enjoy cheeseI can see him now sitting in the back room stroking a white cat

 

But i do admit I have no idea how much work would be involved in setting up such a website. that catered for all that he does now but it coudlnt be anyworse than myspace im sure.