wally jumblat Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Check out this story from 'This is Guernsey': http://www.thisisguernsey.com/code/showsportarticle.pl?ArticleID=015454 The part about the Shetland football team not defending their Island Games title is news to me, but this is the most interesting bit... Shetland won the gold medal on their home pitch last year, when they defeated Steve Ogier’s Guernsey side, 2-0. Shetland’s success was clouded with rumours that their team was made up of players based off the island.‘To be quite honest that side they had mainly came from mainland Scotland,’ said Ogier.‘Their manager was on a six-month contract from Inverness Caledonian. Normally they are the whipping boys and to produce a side like that, it was obviously something they always wanted to win.‘If Shetland played in Rhodes I’d be very, very surprised if it would be the same team that beat us. What a twat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonners Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 That is just complete b******s. People in Guernsey will actually think that's true. I hope The Shetland Times or Radio Shetland do something with this to put the record straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 I would say their Manager is obviously a very good sport! Typical kind of commentary and excuses that are common in all professional sport these days. Maybe he should consider a career in the big leagues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomblands Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Oh this got my hackles up...copy of the email sent to the Guernsey Press and Star - http://www.guernsey-press.com/editorial/contacts.shtml - (who originally published the article) Sir, I read the article entitled "Champions unlikely to defend gold medal" through the "This is Guernsey" website. I have to say I found Steve Ogier's comments somewhat perplexing. Ogier's comment of "To be quite honest that side they had mainly came from mainland Scotland" is, to be quite frank, absolute rubbish. I've listed the players involved, who are based in Shetland, and the clubs they represented at the time: Bobby Wiseman - Lerwick ThistleJohn Montgomery - WhalsayRoss Jamieson - DeltingLeighton Flaws - Lerwick ThistleKarl Williamson - WhalsayDominic Mann - SpursMerv Jamieson - DeltingAlan Duncan - DeltingSteven Umphray - ScallowayKevin Main - DeltingStuart Hay - DeltingCraig Dinwoodie - DeltingStuart Smith - Lerwick ThistleJames Johnston - SpursGrant Gilfillan - ScallowayIan Bray - Ness UtdPeter Peterson - DeltingMichael Johnson - Lerwick ThistleRobert Geddes - Lerwick Thistle In fact, the only player who wasn't playing for a club in Shetland at the time was Duncan Bray who was living in America and came home to play in the Island Games. It should be noted that Duncan Bray has played football in Shetland for a number of years. So it would appear that Ogier's comment was completely unfounded. He also claimed "Their manager was on a six-month contract from Inverness Caledonian". I can assure you, having followed Shetland football for over 10 years, this is the first that I have ever heard of this and I would be interested to find out what his/your source was on this claim. And for Mr Ogier's last comment of "Normally they are the whipping boys and to produce a side like that, it was obviously something they always wanted to win". Given the Island Games were established on the foundation of friendly competition, I find this last comment grossly offensive. I may suggest that you perhaps point Mr Ogier in the direction of a supermarket so he can purchase a bag of sugar to go along with his sour grapes. I can assure you that this article has been forwarded to the Shetland Times, Shetland News and the Island Games Association. And as that email said, I contacted the Times and Shetland News pointing them in the direction of this article. And I also forwarded the article to the Island Games Association to see what they make of Ogier's comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooks Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 ‘To be quite honest that side they had mainly came from mainland Scotland,’ said Ogier. The poor misinformed man was maybe meaning to say that they had mainly come from mainland Shetland... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markj Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 This is the message I sent to the 'this isguernsey' website! 'I don't normally do this kind of thing but I feel I must complain about Steve Ogiers comments regarding the Shetland Football team last summer in the 2005 Island Games. It smacks of sour grapes from a man who's team were comprehensively beaten in the football final (2-0 to Shetland) by a far better side than his. Every player in the team was from Shetland NONE were from 'Mainland Scotland'. The Shetland manager (Niall Bristow not Neil Bristol)is a local man who has lived in Shetland all his life not 'on a six month contract from Inverness Caledonian', the physio for the Shetland team last summer had spent time at Inverness Caledonian. Everything Steve Ogier says is mis-informed and in some places 100% in-correct. I would've expected a man in his position to know his facts, one thing he will know is that Shetland won the 2005 Inter Island games 2-0, by a homegrown Shetland side who worked extremely hard on their game to achieve success.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 The guy sounds a total bad loser, just plucking excuses from the air! What a twat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheesht Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 This is sad indeed. The reporter would need to check his facts before writing such shiote. Worse than that is the fact that if the Guernsey manager has been quoted correctly then he, and likely all his side and his association, probably hold the same opinion of the events surounding last summer. Sad day for sport and if true then any estimation people here held of the sportsmanship of the Gurensey football people has evaporated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomblands Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 This is the message I sent to the 'this isguernsey' website! 'I don't normally do this kind of thing but I feel I must complain about Steve Ogiers comments regarding the Shetland Football team last summer in the 2005 Island Games. It smacks of sour grapes from a man who's team were comprehensively beaten in the football final (2-0 to Shetland) by a far better side than his. Every player in the team was from Shetland NONE were from 'Mainland Scotland'. The Shetland manager (Niall Bristow not Neil Bristol)is a local man who has lived in Shetland all his life not 'on a six month contract from Inverness Caledonian', the physio for the Shetland team last summer had spent time at Inverness Caledonian. Everything Steve Ogier says is mis-informed and in some places 100% in-correct. I would've expected a man in his position to know his facts, one thing he will know is that Shetland won the 2005 Inter Island games 2-0, by a homegrown Shetland side who worked extremely hard on their game to achieve success.' Markj, I suggest you email that to the newspaper the report originally appeared in. The email address is newsroom@guernsey-press.com. I got an email back first thing this morning acknowledging my letter and asking for my permission to publish the letter with my email address...this could be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Hope your letter Tomblands shows the man out to be a complete liar and poor loser. What worries me is that most of the other folk from Guernsey probally belive the same, this may set them right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomblands Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 My letter is further up the page Styles. Have a read and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheesht Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 If you are reading this Mr Ogier, the poor demented bad loser from Guernsey, the fact is that 18 of the 20 players from last year's pool of players had played for Shetland at previous games. A change of manager perhaps, a different approach who knows, better prepared maybe, but players you had seen before. God only knows where you get your information from but it is bull of the highest order and only serves to make you, your team and sadly your association and islands look very bitter indeed. Canon foder my elbow mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkeylover Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Curley (steve ogier) is the best and we all love him in guernsey plus you did cheat!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Don't bother rising to this ^^^^ I'm sure the good people of Guernsey are now well aware that their football manager was speaking rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twerto Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 anyone called donkeylover deserves to be ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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