gricylipper Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Does anyone know whats wrong with the new tugs at Sullom Voe ? been here a good few weeks now and still not in service. Seems like the council have paid goodness knows how many millions on a pair of white/blue elephants !. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Thought I saw them both out working with a ship a couple of days back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavi Ugl Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Yes, I saw them on AIS up in Yell Sund a day or two ago but I guess that's not to say all is well(?). Apparently they're not licensed or something for open waters which in my book is madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavi Ugl Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 http://www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2011/12/22/sullom-voe-tugs-removed-from-service-after-collision-between-solan-and-tanker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithin Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Wonder how much this is going to costs us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Para Handy Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 What did you expect the council had a hand in the design spec of it all no wonder the are not fit for the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairyian Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Wonder how much this is going to costs us? Ferries ? Why not let Edinburgh take on the Tugs ? We can then debate which organisation has the most inept folk in charge. Meanwhile costs ? Well of course the new tugs were to save money, which one year on is clearly not happening. Then one year of ongoing problems, most purchasers would already be knee deep in lawyers paperwork to get a resolution or their money back.No mention of this makes me think SIC got what they asked for and the Ship Yard will be saying it is not their problem if it is not suitable? I can't find any public information on who the naval architect is and if an independent body was employed to supervise the building and commissioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 Did this sort of thing not happen last time there were new tugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 No matter who is to blame, as that has not been established yet, no one was hurt, that is the main thing. I am looking forward to full implementation of Community Involvement, they could hold the voter to blame. I guess though, not because it was mentioned here that there has already been dialogue with the manufacturers agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavi Ugl Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 I fear this is exactly what the shipyard are saying i.e we gave you what you asked us to build and what you paid for..... I would also imagine(give the way of things now) that the Sella Ness management bouldered on in the design etc of the new tugs without involving the existing very experienced tug crews who probably could have given them some invaluable advice and direction which in turn could well have helped avoid this dreadful situation. I have heard that a suggestion has been made to just sell them..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 As usual with the SIC, probably too many 'experts' have been involved in creating a new design rather than something tried and tested. After the Linga and Westering Homewards, you would have thought they would have learned earlier lessons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairyian Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 Did this sort of thing not happen last time there were new tugs? That predates the current ownership. At that time it was a profesional towage company running things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangie Posted December 23, 2011 Report Share Posted December 23, 2011 I seem to recall that the problems with the previous tugs concerned them not achieving the required bollard pull.Rumour has it that the problems with the current new tugs concerns handling and reliability, which is a much more serious problem for those who crew them.When supposed to be going in a straight line the tugs are crabbing like a yacht making leeway, and what is worse this crabbing can flop from one side to the other.When on the bow line the last thing wanted is a loss of control or a blackout, which can easily result in the loss of tug and more importantly the crew.It appears that luckily in this case the tug was close under the bow and about to let go the line at the time the problem occurred. Sella Ness have already gone on record stating that there is nothing wrong with the tugs so it would be rather optimistic to expect the yard to accept a change of hart now and meet any costs.I also hear that Sella Ness have decided that the bulbous bow is the problem although others feel the skeg is a more likely option. Roger Moore has stated that there is no evidence of mechanical failure, is he splitting hairs and differentiating mechanical from electronic, or implying that the crew were at fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithin Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 Whats a few millions between the Council? No heads will roll, or people sacked, just millions to try and sort out a sows ear, all the amazing savings they have made they can afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Para Handy Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 Well after the Norröna and now the Tugs?Our council seems to only waste money in ships of the (Titanic) qualityThey should get out of the shipping industry as quickly as possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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