Redrobbie99 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Here we ago again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrobbie99 Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Cant understand why they never go ''in house'' for these appointments . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 fair enough the council knew. There has been some speculation on Facebook and elsewhere regarding a payment of £10,360 which Mr Boden received for taking on extra work and responsibilities when Kennet District Council was being wound up in 2008. But SIC convener Malcolm Bell said the matter had been known about and “fully investigated†by its recruitment consultants and they were “fully satisfied that there is no reason for us to be concernedâ€. Mr Boden told The Shetland Times that Kennet District Council had faced a difficult challenge to keep public services running while simultaneously winding down the district council in an orderly manner and working to set up a new, larger authority. That led to a number of people “working very long hours†and doing “all sorts of extra work beyond their normal jobâ€. to be honest senior managers should be doing this without extra pay. i hope he does not require extra pay to deal with our difficulties. however lets give him a chance and see. why were they using recruitment specialist again thought they would have know better the last time. what's wrong with their personnel department. in times of budget cuts this seems an expensive method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 The clue Paul could be the comment that he has not been to Shetland yet, which means no expensive flights for interviews and accommodation have been used. Interviewed on the main land perhaps. Folk should ask if they are concerned. Normally, if a council officer does out of hours work, they get the time off in lue. Sometimes this can have a detrimental result on the service if the officer is not there during the day. I would think winding up a council to fit a larger authority as well as maintaining the services until hand over is a long and complicated process, one sadly ignored by the independence spouters and the related costs. £10k is not much really. The percentage is quite low. I in my work have in the past been paid extra exceeding my basic salary for additional work as a manager in a busy TM company depot ( quite a bit more than £10k), sadly, I very rarely got to see the ones I loved and my friends, alas, we turned it around and it settled down. Why should some one not be rewarded for additional efforts if they are over and above the contracted tasks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jz Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 The clue Paul could be the comment that he has not been to Shetland yet, which means no expensive flights for interviews and accommodation have been used. Interviewed on the main land perhaps. Folk should ask if they are concerned. During a three-day visit to the islands as part of last week’s interview process, Mr Boden said he had met senior figures from other key organisations including NHS Shetland, Shetland Recreational Trust, BP and the police. From http://www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2012/09/03/sic-recruits-new-chief-executive-from-wiltshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 ...Why should some one not be rewarded for additional efforts if they are over and above the contracted tasks. You obviously share a different view to the comment allegedly made by their Auditors, namely that they were already been paid to do work of that nature. I hear a certain gentleman allegedly bleated that he had to work in excess of 60hrs per week during a certain period ... who would like to tell him how many hours crofters work then? Hang on, many people work in excess of 60hrs as and when required ... but then they don't get a salary on par with that of certain 'high flyers', do they? Many police officers work in excess of 60hrs per week, have their annual leave cancelled at short notice if they have to attend court as a witness and so forth. They were responsible for the public purse. Morally, I find it rather distasteful that certain individuals felt they should be awarded extra money - such positions don't usually attract 'overtime' and if other councils up and down the UK in the past when transferring power to larger authorities haven't seen fit to award extra money, then I fail to see why this exception should be accepted as good practice if, indeed, anyone did believe it to be so. Edit: And does anybody know how many Council employees were made redundant as part of the transfer of power to the County Council? Did they all get huge pay-offs or just the bare statutory minimum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urabug Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Always thought that if you got a big fixed "salary" then you did not get overtime ,but worked whatever was required .The reason for being so well paid. Possibly this was a bonus ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanofNess Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 You obviously share a different view to the comment allegedly made by their Auditors, namely that they were already been paid to do work of that nature. I hear a certain gentleman allegedly bleated that he had to work in excess of 60hrs per week during a certain period ... who would like to tell him how many hours crofters work then? And that has what to do with someone getting paid to work 40 hours a week asking for more money to work longer hours?. Hang on, many people work in excess of 60hrs as and when required ... but then they don't get a salary on par with that of certain 'high flyers', do they? Why do you think they get such high salaries?. Anything to do with experience, ability and responsibility. Of course its not everyone on a high salary must be a thief who exploits the workers it's the only explanation Many police officers work in excess of 60hrs per week, have their annual leave cancelled at short notice if they have to attend court as a witness and so forth. And surfing instructors get wet, part of the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shetlandpeat Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 The police get paid overtime, they also do not loose the leave, they take it at another time. Crofters/farmers they do not get paid by the hour but on results of the labours they put in. Though they are a poor bunch on Shetland if you look at the total income of farming and compare it to all who are involved in it. Last time I looked it was about £5,000 per head. They do get quite a substantial sum from tax payers money if you check the figures, farmers that is. At the end it is about the job in Shetland, if you look hard enough, you can find problems with any candidate. Job is done now. I do wonder why there is no one on the islands willing to do the job? Anyone can apply can they not US? http://coastcaribbeanimages.com/photographs/9267/disp_9267.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 there was. was this payment tax free. the Wiltshire cc trying to hide the info gives it a smell that it probably does not deserve. sorry but senior post holders should be expect to function at this level with out bonuses. even in the nhs staff over band 7 senior sisters/charge nurses dont get extra pay or overtime or time back. even the bog standard workers very rarely get it. i wonder if the office staff at the former Kennet council who would have done most of the work got a share in this bung. i bet they saw nowt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 there was. was this payment tax free. the Wiltshire cc trying to hide the info gives it a smell that it probably does not deserve. The payment was examined by the auditors so I would think that it was taxed properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Cant understand why they never go ''in house'' for these appointments . They did, I don't recall any of them be a particularly resounding success. However, it would seem that among his latter work with his former employer, he was a member of the management team which presided over the sacking of 220 employees as part of a cost sutting exercise - this talent might well find good use within the SIC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Para Handy Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Jonathan Wills “We have checked the facts very, very carefully and there is absolutely no question of any corruption,†“If there was any question that somebody told lies or had taken monies inappropriately they would not even have made it to the interview panel.†Everybody mark those words.So when they have to pay out another £300,000 on a scam listed as a golden goodbyeYou will all be able to point the finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 yes but they will then blame the outside recruitment agency. won't be there fault ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHUCK NORR1S Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 However, it would seem that among his latter work with his former employer, he was a member of the management team which presided over the sacking of 220 employees as part of a cost sutting exercise - this talent might well find good use within the SIC. That is exactly why he has been brought in. The council are looking to lay off a minimum 350 workers, once he has overseen that and taken the blame, then he is going to up sticks and leave with a healthy pay off................Makes perfect sense and I heard it from someone in the know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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