Stug Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Oops! Colin must have been posting at the same time as me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Apart from deeper background checks perhaps, how else can we stop the housing system being downright abused any suggestions/ideas ? Read my earlier posts..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 putting difficult tenants in special accommodation should only happen in a treatment process not as a social punishment. Why? As far as I am aware we are not talking about treating some self-inflicted "disease" or punishing them for the affliction. Furthermore, I didn't suggest it as some kind of punishment or treatment and I didn't intend to imply that it was in any way 'special accommodation' but, it seems to me that having some kind of 'dormitory' arrangement of single rooms available for those in need of a little extra care is neither a treatment or punishment and that might actually be to their benefit in the long term. I was suggested as just a 'patch' to help fix a badly skewed housing system and might allow more 'deserving'(?) candidates to get somewhere to live at a price they can afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Howe Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Even people who are buying a property have to look at areas within their price range, and for many that means commuting to work. One of the most useful lessons my parents taught me is that you can't have everything you want. It might be time to have more realistic obtainable expectations. Is there a "LIKE" button? *pressing furiously" I commute 19 miles (each way) to work every day and have no qualms doing similar in Shetland, why would I? I was born and raised in Manchester and do not like city life.. Lerwick may not be as big as even my local town now, but it ain't what I seek..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Is there a "LIKE" button? *pressing furiously" Click "View more Emoticons" to get this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owre-weel Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Is there a "LIKE" button? *pressing furiously" You will find the emoticon under "view more emoticons. Laek is the Shetland word for like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owre-weel Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Unlinked student is obviously a faster typer than me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariel Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 putting difficult tenants in special accommodation should only happen in a treatment process not as a social punishment. Why? As far as I am aware we are not talking about treating some self-inflicted "disease" or punishing them for the affliction. Furthermore, I didn't suggest it as some kind of punishment or treatment and I didn't intend to imply that it was in any way 'special accommodation' but, it seems to me that having some kind of 'dormitory' arrangement of single rooms available for those in need of a little extra care is neither a treatment or punishment and that might actually be to their benefit in the long term. I was suggested as just a 'patch' to help fix a badly skewed housing system and might allow more 'deserving'(?) candidates to get somewhere to live at a price they can afford.The hostel at Staney Hill used to offer something like this, but fell foul of new govt rules (or so I heard) which said the homeless shouldn't be concentrated in a particular place as it created stigma. But you don't need the responsibility or expense of an unfurnished house to start you off, and hostels can be exactly what folk need, not least because you can make social contacts there. Yes, there was stigma attached to Staney Hill Hostel, but you can turn that around. The residents did at least get some support and supervision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulb Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 hence therapy. just dumping them in supervised accommodation because they don't meet the expected norm is no right. were would it stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unlinkedstudent Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 hence therapy. just dumping them in supervised accommodation because they don't meet the expected norm is no right. were would it stop. Bring back the stocks! Bring back public flogging! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariel Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 hence therapy. just dumping them in supervised accommodation because they don't meet the expected norm is no right. were would it stop.No, I'm not talking about folk who need 'help' I'm talking about folk who need somewhere to stay. 'Just dumping' them in an unfurnished house is no better. I would be delighted with a hostel bed if I was homeless, and I have stayed in quite a few in my time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exciseman Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I worked with a guy in Glasgow who had a wife and young child and lived with his parents. As I rostered his shifts he was always keen to get any overtime going – he said he was saving to get a council house. Not to buy a council house, but to get onto the waiting list by giving his local councillor a sum of money – the more he gave the councillor the higher he would get on the waiting list. Would the same system work in Lerwick?......answers on the back of a £50 note to your local councillor............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrobbie Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Well the answer to all these problems are clear even Wikipedia are seeing it our way http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Shetland by the way how much is 460lb of gold worth nowadays that's something we were never told about at school.I wonder why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrobbie Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I worked with a guy in Glasgow who had a wife and young child and lived with his parents. As I rostered his shifts he was always keen to get any overtime going – he said he was saving to get a council house. Not to buy a council house, but to get onto the waiting list by giving his local councillor a sum of money – the more he gave the councillor the higher he would get on the waiting list. Would the same system work in Lerwick?......answers on the back of a £50 note to your local councillor............ The Labour party is notoriously corrupt in the west coast of Scotland. just one eg http://www.newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-politics/6589-gordon-matheson-apologises-as-sex-act-scandal-rocks-glasgow-labour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrobbie Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 This is perhaps a better eg of the comrades down the road http://spiderstalk.com/index.php?showtopic=1384 or this http://caledonianmercury.com/2010/08/11/analysis-what-on-earth-is-going-on-in-glasgow-council/009866 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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