crofter Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I know someone who puts his rubbish bag out fortnightly. It is usually less than half full. All it contains is (flattened) tin cans and the ashes from his stove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Bridgman-Elliot Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Want to be scared of what could happen.. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1556406.ece http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1566061.ece http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1657046.ece http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1716438.ece http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1795766.ece http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1269881.ece http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1708743.ece I could go on, but you see how bad it could get.. After nearly a year and a pair of bolt cutters, I've finally got ridden of the last mattress dumped in my garden.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbiniho Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 thing is though i wid like to think the bin men up here are a bit friendlier than those sooth, the bin men even come to the bottom of our drive to pick up wir bin bags as they have done for as long as i remember, i take it that the wheelie bins would only be for the toon, wid they have to be padlocked down or will "youths" steal them and just cause havoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjool Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Want to be scared of what could happen..Omg.. Nigel? For someone with a supernatural IQ, you've just supplied a whole bunch of Sun links... And you've seemingly been burying a mattress in your garden over a period of several months, rather than take it to a skip? You're a Turing Test and I claim my £500. Seriously though, Shetland has a good skip service and several ways to dispose of bulky waste. We take it for granted a bit much perhaps. I think that it's important to place emphasis on reduce, reuse, recycle; catchy and makes perfect sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crofter Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 You're a Turing Test and I claim my £500. Inflation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjool Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 ^ Uncertain times, man. Uncertain times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khitajrah Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 I know someone who puts his rubbish bag out fortnightly. It is usually less than half full. All it contains is (flattened) tin cans and the ashes from his stove. How do you know?? No good scran then, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitzyMu Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Wheelie bins?? Listen to the folk who vote, it takes me all my time to get the black bags to the bag store never mind haul up the steps to the collection store I am not the only disabled person on the block and an OAP . I would love to be able to recycle into relevent bins as our duaghters down the road but Shetland is not the place for such equipment. the bin men will need parachutes and water wings to combat the unpredictable weather plus muscles on muscles to get the bins to the essey cart:roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groilick Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Da introduction o Essie (wheelie) bins tae da toon will be dae first step in a change tae fortnightly collection a clean new bin will mak a fine tub fur saating a cast yowe or twa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleJoannie Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 MitztMu's comment above reminded me that a lot of council schemes now have stores where you can put your black bags as soon as they are full. This saves you from having them lying about the house all week. What will happen to this system if wheelie bins become compulsory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 ^^ I'd not shed any tears over the demise of the communal stores, even if it is as a result of wheeled bins being introduced. The store idea may be reasonable enough, but falls flat when the location and design is poor. Site one, as the one here is, on top of a knowe with it's doors facing the prevailing westerly wind, which is coming striaght off the ocean, first stop since Labrador, and its nigh on impossible for the majority of winter collections to be made without plastic and paper being blown around. Yes, in an ideal world everything would be securely bagged up, but when the store itself is on the small side for what has to go in it, bags on the bottom are easily damaged by the weight of those piled on top of them crushing them. Its not helped one little bit either by the whole front of the store being vertical wooden slats, so that local cats can reach in and snag the bags leaning against that wall to obtain food scraps. No doubt as it's open slats right to the ground, sundry mice and rats find it great for dining too, and leave holed bags as well. Certainly there are graceless folk who just turn up with a skurtfoo o lowse bruk and fire it in that are to blame for a certain percentage of what blows around. However, over the years I have personally witnessed bags very obviously in already dubious condition being fired through the air in to the truck, losing contents in flight, badly aimed bags making the same journey hitting the truck body instead of going in, and falling to the ground, with few surviving intact both impacts. I've also seen attempts being made to throw large sheets of cardboard, too big to bag up, in to the truck and against a strong wind, when it was obvious they wouldn't make it. Credit where its due, anything that falls on the ground between the store and the truck, and doesn't blow away before the guys have finished emptying what is in the store, they will pick up again. However, anything that has blown, even only a matter of a few yards away, I have yet to see them attempt to retrieve. You always know when it's been Essy Kert day round here for most of the winter, just check if there's much paper and plastic debris blowing around. Having your bruck storage hijacked is not exclusive to wheeled bins either, stores are magnets for the whole neighbourhood, over time I've seen numerous people who have nothing to do with anyone living in any of the houses the store is supposed to serve, unloading in to it. All of which aids the place being wall to wall and 4 - 5 foot tall of bruck some weeks. There's even one guy who turns up most weeks with at least 3 or 4 bags, he's been doing it so often for so long that I know his vehicle plates from memory.... As far as I can see there's no perfect system, and you're certainly never going to please all of the people all of the time, wheeled bins could be made to work around here, but are borderline for practicality. The store system has the advantage of letting you put out as much bruck as you like whenever you like, but unless they're very carefully designed and sited have the same issues as bags of stuff getting spilled and/or blown around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarotangel Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 They would have to have something to keep them down. When I lived in West Lothian it was quite often that the bins would be blown over the street. We never had any problems wi folk putting their rubbish in other folks bins at all. Can't say for the whole of West Lothian but I never heard any problems for Linlithgow. Personally I think it might be a bit impractical for up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trout Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Having not paid any attention to this - nor can I be bothered really to go a-huntin for the moomin-bits of info I'm looking for .. shame on me! .... is the bins to be the heavho muckle black street bins for Lerwick? Are they going to be the light plastic green things that'll be away to Norway in the first gale and have to be stored somewhere? Is this a Lerwick thing only - or for the whole Isle? ^^^ Lots of questions there. Sorry. There always appears to be much to do and noise made about bins .. the big black street bins are ace by the way. You should have seen King Street in Aberdeen before their introduction ... it was like walking in a rubbish tip every week with fat happy maws flying about everywhere! The daft green plastic bins are an aquired taste I admit though. They blow around everywhere unless stored correctly or full of "heavy" rubbish. Fine if you live in a city close with a defined bin holding area but if not they stand in the way on paths and or just random places - usually helped by the wind! Plus if you have neighbours that don't give a toot you end up having to chain the thing up so you can get your own rubbish dumped! (bin men South won't gather rubbish if not in specified bin! - will this rule be part of introduction of bins too?) The type of bin area that Ghostrider talks of but with the big black heaveho bins are a good goer - but only any use in council areas where there are houses in close proximity to each other and bins... This is the bit I don't understand ... Shetland is such a dispersed community I can't see street bins being any use in the country - and the green plastic bins will end up blowing around all over the shop unless lashed down well and truely - and is the bin men then supposed to be able to untie them? Is the council then going to provide "bin areas" that they can be placed in .. or are householders expected to try and lash these things down themselves? Most people have created their own bin boxes covered in netting to keep maws oot! Are they then supposed to be expected to create bin areas to hold these new plastic bins? In addition bin men in Edinburgh for fact won't pick up the sodding plastic bins if there is even a little too much rubbish in them and a bag is sticking out a little bit ... so an accessible neighbours bin is a handy thing to have on occasion. Will Shetlanders get an extra bin then? Will they be expected to pay for them ... will they even have space for them anyway? etc. etc ... lots more questions ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Bridgman-Elliot Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Harking to a Simpsons Episode, when I lived up north we had old fashioned metal bins, nice and heavy so didn't go anywhere when it was windy. The mattresses which showed up in my garden, after cutting off the material and then cutting all the metal deelie parts into small enough pieces to stick into my wheelie bin, slowly disappeared that way. I could have hidden them in the garden if I fancied digging up the concrete, or I'd have taken them to the tip if I had a car.. The Sun rather specialises in Wheelie bin stories, though I'm sure if googled I could find the same story in The Times or any other news source if I looked hard enough.. I quite liked the idea of the wheelie bin being introduced here, but the implimentation of the whole thing didn't go as well as it should have done. Eg. your limited to one per household, or 2 if you have 8+ people living there, so if you have 7 people and all your rubbish doesn't fit in it, well, thats just too bad.. So thats how we went from, the council collecting your rubbish to the council refusing to take your rubbish, and once it piles up enough in your garden, then taking you to court and finding you thousands.. And now every week it seems, they increase the list of things they refuse to take, today its no to any DIY rubbish, so if you've stripped your wallpaper, don't expect them to take it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMe Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Nigel, are we talking council or contractors here?. Is there a tendency for waste collection services to deteriorate when they are farmed out to the private sector?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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